I have been adamantly pushing Novell/SuSe adoption at our small company (testing SLES 9 / NLD 9) as well as 9-9.3 and now 10. 10 is a big hit; but the annoucement to go with Gnome as the supported interface will almost completely kill my project. Not one of the users trying it liked it (we set up testing for both desktops). This is the reason Red Hat was not considered and SuSe was chosen. Now we like Evolution even though it's missing some basic functionality (leave messages on server until deleted from inbox etc..) that works great in TBird. I have been involved in beta testing Xandros Server, and I tested their Business desktop 3 prior to release. They were comperable to SuSe except on their Windows Connectivity, which is the best and easiest I have ever used in our AD environments. That being said we still stayed the SuSe course untill the Gnome annoucement....... The other IT directors admins from various companies I meet with (we are all working on decreasing / replacing windows as a group, share the testing load so to speak) have the same feelings. We are all in manufacturing non computer, communications or software related industries .... Please rest assured there is no zealotry involved, just pure simple business economics; less problems better functionality (security with KIOSK) with KDE than Gnome which means better utilization of limited IT resources and training budgets. I understand your decision was one of economics as well since you own Ximian, unfortunately your marketing department led you astray on this decision, Gnome has to many headaches and less functional offerings than KDE IMHO (its tsclient frontend for rdesktop is pretty spiffy though); well these are just our opinions. Oh and I purchase commercial Linux software offerings as well as purchasing items where the proceeds got to open source developers; I believe you get what you pay for (except with 90% of windows offerings) Rick ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.