Well, I have to agree in some ways with the original poster, and some ways not. I would say Firefox is definetly better than Konqueror for the following reasons: -UI, Konqueror's default UI is just in-exusable, it has way too many buttons, and alot of them look the same so its hard to tell which one is wich. -Speed, I find FireFox faster, but expereince will vary -Support, Konqueror use is still below 0.5%, Firefox has good support from major companies, this is not the IE argument, I always used netscape, but it never went below %2, so it never stopped being supported OpenOffice is much more mature, and has alot of those extra important features. -KOffice's UI isn't exactly great either. Kontact is nicer than Thunderbird for most e-mail stuff. -It is much more feature complete -Though, the Mozilla project has much better UIs. No comment on the audio players, I use Amarok, which has the worst UI I have seen in a long time, but its good playlists and collections features are what make it better. No comment in instant messengers, I use aMSN, I only need the MSN protocol and aMSN seems to have much better support for it, more of its features. -- Taylor Byrnes Rediscover The Web Download Firefox http://www.getfirefox.com ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.