so i read on a gentoo forum that you could build all of kde without arts and sure enough, it worked! no more arts, no more pesky audio delay in my flash movies but... well i rather liked juk, and it seems to not have been built as a result of the --without-arts thing. what's more, i don't have any system notifications (though i've heard you can do this with another program like ogg123... i've not experimented yet). what i would like to know though, is whether or not there's a way to get juk without arts. is that possible or are the two permanently linked? -- Mal: Are you offering me a trade? Jayne: A trade? Hell, it's practically theft. This here's the finest gun made by man, it's lots better than what you got. Mal: What I got? She has a name. Jayne: So does this! I call her Vera. - Jayne attempting to trade his best gun with Mal for Saffron, Firefly, "Our Mrs. Reynolds" ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.