'ello If anybody has a similar problem - I have no idea how it happened. It must be a bug. It can be fixed by going into KDE set up for these things as root (set admin mode) checking and unchecking the log out options as required and hitting apply. Regards John ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.