i've installed kde3.2beta and have been doing a number bug reports (with a fantastic response i might add!) but there's one bug that i'm not sure how to report. see when i'm using kmail, i can click on all the buttons and text boxes without a problem, but then trying to click on a desktop on kicker sometimes requires anywhere between 2-5 clicks to actually switch to the desktop. it's as if i have to tell kde to focus the kicker, then be really sure that's what i want. then show it again, just to be sure. ...and the behaviour is the same with the application start buttons as well as the minimised windows on the kicker. now i can post the above to bugs.kde.org, but i can't image that that's very helpful. is there a way to get debugging output on this kind of thing? -- ...he who in dealing with the empire loves his subjects as one should love one's body is the best person to whom one can commit the empire. - lau tzu, "tao te ching: chapter xiii" ___________________________________________________ . Account management: https://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde. Archives: http://lists.kde.org/. More info: http://www.kde.org/faq.html.