Re: pin OABUFFER to GGTT

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On Wed, Jul 02, 2014 at 10:31:45AM +0000, Madajczak, Tomasz wrote:
> Ad>Tomasz: is the intention to only measure within a batch? My impression is
> that you wanted to maintain the OABUFFER programmed and then collect
> performance reports for a period of time (probably for several
> batchbuffers). If that´s the case, the relocation approach is not possible.
> 
> I confirm that relocation approach is not possible.

I'm not sure it's not possible. As long as you only need to start and
stop the OA counters from one context, only one context needs to emit
the reloc (with the GGTT pin flag). Nobody else needs to know the flag
is present, and indeed it prevents other contexts from snooping the
data.

OTOH, later in the thread you say root + PIN is okay for you. That is
probably easiest.

> 
> OA buffer collect performance data for many hw contexts, and thus many batch
> buffers, it is a hardware reporting mechanism not bound to any specific GPU
> command send within a BB.
> 
> The report is triggered by hw when:
> - hw context switches, that action can be caused by any level GPU
> preemption, GUC direct context submission, and regular kernel exec list
> submission
> - GPU frequency change - that is trigger by power management
> - RC6 transition
> - time interval expiration (if programmed so for collect performance data at
> regular time intervals)
> 
> Each instance of UMD maps then the OA buffer to examine it within the
> Performance Query measurement window. Window is learned with Query::Begin
> and Query::End timestamps and reported OABufferTail pointer on Query::End.
> As OA buffer is large (up to 16MB), any KMD assist in conveying that data to
> UMD on each Query::End is not applicable - queries might be done per each
> Draw. There isn't any secret or privacy in that OA buffer data - just
> results of performance counters, shown by tools such as GPA/ Vtune.
> 
> Thanks,
> Tomasz
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mateo Lozano, Oscar 
> Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 10:50 AM
> To: Chris Wilson; Ben Widawsky
> Cc: Intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Madajczak, Tomasz; Rutkowski, Adam J;
> Jesse Barnes (jbarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> Subject: RE:  pin OABUFFER to GGTT
> 
> 
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> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chris Wilson [mailto:chris@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx]
> > Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2014 7:56 AM
> > To: Ben Widawsky
> > Cc: Mateo Lozano, Oscar; Intel-gfx@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx; Madajczak, 
> > Tomasz; Rutkowski, Adam J; Jesse Barnes (jbarnes@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx)
> > Subject: Re:  pin OABUFFER to GGTT
> > 
> > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 11:40:52PM -0700, Ben Widawsky wrote:
> > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 08:54:27PM +0100, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > > On Tue, Jul 01, 2014 at 05:16:30PM +0000, Mateo Lozano, Oscar wrote:
> > > > > > The issue is they need:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > A) A buffer object.
> > > > > > B) Bound to GGTT.
> > > > > > C) That userspace knows the GGTT offset of, so that they can 
> > > > > > program OABUFFER with it.
> > > > > > D) That userspace can map so that they can read the reported
> > counters.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > They used to create a bo, call bo_pin on it, use args->offset 
> > > > > > to program OABUFFER (via MI_LOAD_REGISTER_IMM, I imagine), map 
> > > > > > it and read the counter values. They cannot do this anymore.
> > > > >
> > > > > The answer might be that all of this needs to be done by the 
> > > > > kernel
> > itself, but then we need to provide an interface to userspace...
> > > >
> > > > Yes. If you need to pin a buffer for a register, then it needs to 
> > > > be handled by the kernel. Especially one that provides information 
> > > > about other users.
> > > > -Chris
> > > >
> > >
> > > I'm unclear why they need the offset. Can it not work like any other 
> > > relocation, except with the requirement that it's in the GGTT?
> > >
> > > I'd also argue that they need to be able to map it (they need the 
> > > contents, which may or may not be mapped). However, I think this is 
> > > a very minor point.
> > >
> > > With the command validator this should be a pretty reasonable thing 
> > > to accomplish. I think we can just give a flag for the reloc that it 
> > > needs to be in the GGTT, and then pass a check to the command 
> > > scanner that only that one offset is allowed, and only for OA.
> > 
> > If the intention was to only measure within a batch and the command 
> > parser ensured that the register was cleared before the end of the batch,
> fine.
> > That's not an information leak nor do we keep the hardware pointing to 
> > an unpinned buffer afterwards.
> > Chris Wilson, Intel Open Source Technology Centre
> 
> Tomasz: is the intention to only measure within a batch? My impression is
> that you wanted to maintain the OABUFFER programmed and then collect
> performance reports for a period of time (probably for several
> batchbuffers). If that´s the case, the relocation approach is not possible.
> 
> Chris: please notice that the bo_pin ioctl they were using until now
> required root, so the information leak about other users was not that bad.
> Still, I tend to agree that bo_pin for this is overkill and the programming
> of OABUFFER should be carried out by the kernel (with some interface to
> userspace so that they can retrieve the actual contents of the buffer...
> root only of course). 
> 
> -- Oscar



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