Re: [PATCH 0/4] Drop wbinvd_on_all_cpus usage

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On Mon, 2022-03-21 at 12:22 +0000, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> 
> On 21/03/2022 11:03, Thomas Hellström wrote:
> > Hi, Tvrtko.
> > 
> > On 3/21/22 11:27, Tvrtko Ursulin wrote:
> > > 
> > > On 19/03/2022 19:42, Michael Cheng wrote:
> > > > To align with the discussion in [1][2], this patch series drops
> > > > all 
> > > > usage of
> > > > wbvind_on_all_cpus within i915 by either replacing the call
> > > > with certain
> > > > drm clflush helpers, or reverting to a previous logic.
> > > 
> > > AFAIU, complaint from [1] was that it is wrong to provide non x86
> > > implementations under the wbinvd_on_all_cpus name. Instead an
> > > arch 
> > > agnostic helper which achieves the same effect could be created.
> > > Does 
> > > Arm have such concept?
> > 
> > I also understand Linus' email like we shouldn't leak incoherent IO
> > to 
> > other architectures, meaning any remaining wbinvd()s should be X86
> > only.
> 
> The last part is completely obvious since it is a x86 instruction
> name.

Yeah, I meant the function implementing wbinvd() semantics.

> 
> But I think we can't pick a solution until we know how the concept
> maps 
> to Arm and that will also include seeing how the drm_clflush_sg for
> Arm 
> would look. Is there a range based solution, or just a big hammer
> there. 
> If the latter, then it is no good to churn all these reverts but
> instead 
> an arch agnostic wrapper, with a generic name, would be the way to
> go.

But my impression was that ARM would not need the range-based interface
either, because ARM is only for discrete and with discrete we're always
coherent.

So in essence it all would become:

1) Any cache flushing intended for incoherent IO is x86 only.
2) Prefer range-based flushing if possible and any implications sorted
out.

/Thomas


> 
> Regards,
> 
> Tvrtko
> 
> > Also, wbinvd_on_all_cpus() can become very costly, hence prefer the
> > range apis when possible if they can be verified not to degrade 
> > performance.
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > Given that the series seems to be taking a different route,
> > > avoiding 
> > > the need to call wbinvd_on_all_cpus rather than what [1] suggests
> > > (note drm_clflush_sg can still call it!?), concern is that the
> > > series 
> > > has a bunch of reverts and each one needs to be analyzed.
> > 
> > 
> > Agreed.
> > 
> > /Thomas
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > For instance looking at just the last one, 64b95df91f44, who has 
> > > looked at the locking consequences that commit describes:
> > > 
> > > """
> > >     Inside gtt_restore_mappings() we currently take the 
> > > obj->resv->lock, but
> > >     in the future we need to avoid taking this fs-reclaim tainted
> > > lock 
> > > as we
> > >     need to extend the coverage of the vm->mutex. Take advantage
> > > of the
> > >     single-threaded nature of the early resume phase, and do a
> > > single
> > >     wbinvd() to flush all the GTT objects en masse.
> > > 
> > > """
> > > 
> > > ?
> > > 
> > > Then there are suspend and freeze reverts which presumably can
> > > regress 
> > > the suspend times. Any data on those?
> > > 
> > > Adding Matt since he was the reviewer for that work so might
> > > remember 
> > > something.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > 
> > > Tvrtko
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > [1]. 
> > > > https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2021-November/330928.html
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > [2].
> > > > https://patchwork.freedesktop.org/patch/475752/?series=99991&rev=5
> > > > 
> > > > Michael Cheng (4):
> > > >    i915/gem: drop wbinvd_on_all_cpus usage
> > > >    Revert "drm/i915/gem: Almagamate clflushes on suspend"
> > > >    i915/gem: Revert i915_gem_freeze to previous logic
> > > >    drm/i915/gt: Revert ggtt_resume to previous logic
> > > > 
> > > >   drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_dmabuf.c |  9 +---
> > > >   drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gem/i915_gem_pm.c     | 56
> > > > ++++++++++++++--------
> > > >   drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_ggtt.c       | 17 +++----
> > > >   drivers/gpu/drm/i915/gt/intel_gtt.h        |  2 +-
> > > >   4 files changed, 46 insertions(+), 38 deletions(-)
> > > > 





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