Hi, I want to take this problem up again, because it's important we get this right. The HDA driver assumes that a codec pin widget node always refers to the same physical output. With Haswell, it seems like this is not guaranteed to be true. I would like to see this fixed on the graphics side. If not, I don't know how to work around it on the audio side. The problems that occur on the audio side are: 1) Some BIOSes set default pin config. E g, if the machine has a single HDMI out, it can set two of the codec pins to "not connected" and let the third remain "jack". As a result, the HDA driver will ignore the two codec pins and only enable the third. As such, HDMI audio will not work correctly, unless it's the third codec pin that is connected to the physical output. 2) Saving and restoring mutes, volumes etc is done on a per-pin basis. E g, imagine that a user has a dual monitor setup and always wants audio output from the left side monitor, and keep the right side monitor silent. If it is not reliable which codec pin refers to which physical output, one day suddenly the sound might come out on the right side monitor instead. -- David Henningsson, Canonical Ltd. https://launchpad.net/~diwic