Re: [PATCH v4 15/17] drm/uAPI: Move "Broadcast RGB" property from driver specific to general context

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On Tue, 22 Jun 2021 11:57:53 +0200
Werner Sembach <wse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:

> Am 22.06.21 um 09:25 schrieb Pekka Paalanen:
> > On Fri, 18 Jun 2021 11:11:14 +0200
> > Werner Sembach <wse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> >  
> >> Add "Broadcast RGB" to general drm context so that more drivers besides
> >> i915 and gma500 can implement it without duplicating code.
> >>
> >> Userspace can use this property to tell the graphic driver to use full or
> >> limited color range for a given connector, overwriting the default
> >> behaviour/automatic detection.
> >>
> >> Possible options are:
> >>     - Automatic (default/current behaviour)
> >>     - Full
> >>     - Limited 16:235
> >>
> >> In theory the driver should be able to automatically detect the monitors
> >> capabilities, but because of flawed standard implementations in Monitors,
> >> this might fail. In this case a manual overwrite is required to not have
> >> washed out colors or lose details in very dark or bright scenes.
> >>
> >> Signed-off-by: Werner Sembach <wse@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>
> >> ---
> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_helper.c |  4 +++
> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_uapi.c   |  4 +++
> >>  drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c     | 43 +++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
> >>  include/drm/drm_connector.h         | 16 +++++++++++
> >>  4 files changed, 67 insertions(+)
> >>
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_helper.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_helper.c
> >> index 90d62f305257..0c89d32efbd0 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_helper.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_helper.c
> >> @@ -691,6 +691,10 @@ drm_atomic_helper_check_modeset(struct drm_device *dev,
> >>  			if (old_connector_state->preferred_color_format !=
> >>  			    new_connector_state->preferred_color_format)
> >>  				new_crtc_state->connectors_changed = true;
> >> +
> >> +			if (old_connector_state->preferred_color_range !=
> >> +			    new_connector_state->preferred_color_range)
> >> +				new_crtc_state->connectors_changed = true;
> >>  		}
> >>  
> >>  		if (funcs->atomic_check)
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_uapi.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_uapi.c
> >> index c536f5e22016..c589bb1a8163 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_uapi.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_atomic_uapi.c
> >> @@ -798,6 +798,8 @@ static int drm_atomic_connector_set_property(struct drm_connector *connector,
> >>  		state->max_requested_bpc = val;
> >>  	} else if (property == connector->preferred_color_format_property) {
> >>  		state->preferred_color_format = val;
> >> +	} else if (property == connector->preferred_color_range_property) {
> >> +		state->preferred_color_range = val;
> >>  	} else if (connector->funcs->atomic_set_property) {
> >>  		return connector->funcs->atomic_set_property(connector,
> >>  				state, property, val);
> >> @@ -877,6 +879,8 @@ drm_atomic_connector_get_property(struct drm_connector *connector,
> >>  		*val = state->max_requested_bpc;
> >>  	} else if (property == connector->preferred_color_format_property) {
> >>  		*val = state->preferred_color_format;
> >> +	} else if (property == connector->preferred_color_range_property) {
> >> +		*val = state->preferred_color_range;
> >>  	} else if (connector->funcs->atomic_get_property) {
> >>  		return connector->funcs->atomic_get_property(connector,
> >>  				state, property, val);
> >> diff --git a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c
> >> index aea03dd02e33..9bc596638613 100644
> >> --- a/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c
> >> +++ b/drivers/gpu/drm/drm_connector.c
> >> @@ -905,6 +905,12 @@ static const struct drm_prop_enum_list drm_active_color_format_enum_list[] = {
> >>  	{ DRM_COLOR_FORMAT_YCRCB420, "ycbcr420" },
> >>  };
> >>  
> >> +static const struct drm_prop_enum_list drm_preferred_color_range_enum_list[] = {
> >> +	{ DRM_MODE_COLOR_RANGE_UNSET, "Automatic" },
> >> +	{ DRM_MODE_COLOR_RANGE_FULL, "Full" },
> >> +	{ DRM_MODE_COLOR_RANGE_LIMITED_16_235, "Limited 16:235" },  
> > Hi,
> >
> > the same question here about these numbers as I asked on the "active
> > color range" property.
> >  
> >> +};
> >> +
> >>  static const struct drm_prop_enum_list drm_active_color_range_enum_list[] = {
> >>  	{ DRM_MODE_COLOR_RANGE_UNSET, "Unknown" },
> >>  	{ DRM_MODE_COLOR_RANGE_FULL, "Full" },
> >> @@ -1243,6 +1249,13 @@ static const struct drm_prop_enum_list dp_colorspaces[] = {
> >>   *	drm_connector_attach_active_color_format_property() to install this
> >>   *	property.
> >>   *
> >> + * Broadcast RGB:
> >> + *	This property is used by userspace to change the used color range. When
> >> + *	used the driver will use the selected range if valid for the current
> >> + *	color format. Drivers to use the function
> >> + *	drm_connector_attach_preferred_color_format_property() to create and
> >> + *	attach the property to the connector during initialization.  
> > An important detail to document here is: does userspace need to
> > take care that pixel data at the connector will already match the set
> > range, or will the driver program the hardware to produce the set range?  
> Since until now, the userspace didn't even know for sure if RGB or YCbCr and therefore which full/limited format was
> used I guess it's all kernel space conversion.
> >
> > If the former, then I'm afraid the preference/active property pair
> > design does not work. Userspace needs to make sure the content is in
> > the right range, so the driver cannot second-guess that afterwards.
> >
> > If the latter, then what does the driver assume about color range just
> > before the automatic conversion to the final color range, and does the
> > range conversion happen as the final step in the color pipeline?
> >
> > If I remember the discussion about Intel right, then the driver does
> > the latter and assume that userspace programs KMS to always produce
> > full range pixels. There is no provision for userspace to produce
> > limited range pixels, IIRC.  
> I think I remember this too from an answer to one of the revisions of this patchset.

As long as you keep the old KMS property as is, just moving code so it
is used by more drivers, this is fine and one can't do otherwise anyway.

(The rest of this email is merely pondering the future, so not about
this patch in particular.)


But if we had a new, more general property for the range reported to
monitors via infoframes, then it would be worth to re-visit the design.
The HDR properties only set the infoframe and expect userspace to make
sure that the pixels actually correspond to what the infoframes tell
the monitor. One can't do HDR tone mapping automatically in the kernel,
so in that sense the HDR property behaviour is obvious. But which
behaviour would fit range property or others better, I'm not sure.

Generally there seems to be two approaches to designing KMS properties:

- Let userspace describe what data it has and what data should be sent
  to a monitor, and let the kernel driver magically come up with a
  conversion.

- Only userspace understands how the pixel data is encoded, and
  programs the transformations (DEGAMMA/CTM/GAMMA etc.) such, that the
  result is what a monitor expects based on e.g. infoframes.

Doing the former requires policy in the kernel. If there is a
specification that uniquely defines what the conversion is, this is
good. But if not or if there are artistic decisions to be made, like
with HDR tone mapping, then it doesn't work.

OTOH, the former approach allows the driver to use any and all hardware
features it has to realize the conversion, perhaps taking advantage of
even fixed-function hardware blocks. The latter approach is much harder
to map to hardware features.

This dilemma has been discussed in length in
https://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/dri-devel/2021-June/311689.html


Thanks,
pq

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