Re: [PATCH] [drm][i915] Increase LSPCON timeout

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On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:36:43AM +0200, Fredrik Schön wrote:
> Shashank,
> 
> Den tors 16 aug. 2018 kl 10:15 skrev Sharma, Shashank
> <shashank.sharma@xxxxxxxxx>:
> >
> > Hey Chris,
> >
> >
> > On 8/16/2018 1:13 PM, Chris Wilson wrote:
> > > Quoting Sharma, Shashank (2018-08-16 08:33:36)
> > >> Regards
> > >>
> > >> Shashank
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 8/16/2018 12:47 PM, Jani Nikula wrote:
> > >>> On Wed, 15 Aug 2018, Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@xxxxxxxxx> wrote:
> > >>>> On Wed, Aug 15, 2018 at 03:39:40PM -0700, Rodrigo Vivi wrote:
> > >>>>> On Mon, Aug 13, 2018 at 07:51:33PM +0200, Fredrik Schön wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> First of all we need to fix the commit subject:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> drm/i915: Increase LSPCON timeout
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> (this can be done when merging, no need to resend)
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> 100 ms is not enough time for the LSPCON adapter on Intel NUC devices to
> > >>>>>> settle. This causes dropped display modes at driver initialisation.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Increase timeout to 1000 ms.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Fixes: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1570392
> > >>>>> Missusage of "Fixes:" tag, please read
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> https://01.org/linuxgraphics/gfx-docs/maintainer-tools/drm-intel.html#fixes
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> But also no need for resending... could be fixed when merging
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> The right one would be:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Bugzilla: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1570392
> > >>>>> Fixes: 357c0ae9198a ("drm/i915/lspcon: Wait for expected LSPCON mode to settle")
> > >>>>> Cc: Shashank Sharma <shashank.sharma@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>> Cc: Imre Deak <imre.deak@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>> Cc: Jani Nikula <jani.nikula@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>> Cc: <stable@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> # v4.11+
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Since initial 100 seemed to be empirical and this increase seems to
> > >>>>> help other cases I'm in favor of this move so
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Reviewed-by: Rodrigo Vivi <rodrigo.vivi@xxxxxxxxx>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> However I will wait a bit before merging it
> > >>>>> so Imre, Shashank, and/or Jani can take a look here...
> > >>>> now, really cc'ing them...
> > >>> Shashank? Does this slow down non-LSPCON paths?
> > >> This will slow down the lspcon probing and resume part, but both of them
> > >> happen only when LSPCON device is found. So to answer your question,
> > >> this will not slow down the non-lspcon path, but will slow down the
> > >> LSPCON connector resume and probe time. but I would recommend, instead
> > >> of increasing it to 1000 ms in a single shot, we might want to gradually
> > >> pick this up, on a wake-and-check way.
> > > wait_for() checks every [10us, 1ms] until the condition is met, or it
> > > times out. So, so long as we don't enter this path for !LPSCON where we
> > > know that it will timeout, the wait_for() will only take as long as is
> > > required for the connector to settle.
> > We wont hit !LSPCON timeout case here, as we have already read the
> > dongle signature successfully by now.  But I was thinking that, if the
> > spec recommends max wait time as 100ms (which is of course doesn't seem
> > enough), if we can't detect i2c-over-aux after first 500ms, I guess we
> > wont be able to do that in next 500ms too. So is it really ok to wait
> > this long in the resume sequence ?
> >
> > I guess Fredrik can provide some inputs here on if there are some
> > experiments behind this number of 1000ms, or this is just a safe bet ?
> > >
> 
> My first patch attempt - which is attached to the Redhat and FDO Bugzilla
> bugs - added a retry loop around the original 100 ms timeout. The retry loop
> did trigger, but never more than once in a row in my testing.
> 
> So possibly 200 ms would be a sufficient timeout, but as the wait_for() loop
> terminates early on success I suggested a conservative value of 1000 ms.

Since Shashank mentioned 100us came from some spec, maybe the double is already
a conservative value.

Since there is the concerns of delaying something when LSPCON fails
and we are possibly looping on connectors somewhere/somehow I believe we need
to have a balanced approach here.

could you please try the 200 ms approach on your case there for a while and
see how it goes?

> 
> > > Can we do other connectors at the same time, or does probing LSPCON
> > > block the system?
> > We can do other connectors at the same time in DRM layer at-least,
> > LSPCON blocks only this connector. I was curious if are we doing this
> > during the resume scenario or is this in the sequential get_connector()
> > type of call  ?
> > - Shashank
> > > -Chris
> /F
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