Re: sad output names

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On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 02:21:24PM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> Rodrigo Vivi composed on 2018-07-25 09:20 (UTC-0700):
> 
> > On Wed, Jul 25, 2018 at 03:37:52AM -0400, Felix Miata wrote:
> 
> >> Asus B250 LGA 1151 (Kaby Lake) Motherboard (4 total physical video outputs):
> >> https://www.asus.com/us/Motherboards/PRIME-B250M-C-CSM/
> 
> >> G4600 HD Graphics 630 CPU
> 
> >> Server 1.20.0 (openSUSE Tumbleweed)
> 
> >> kernel 4.17.4
> 
> >> Xorg driver: modesetting
> 
> >> Xrandr		Actual Cable
> >> Reports		Connectors
> >> DP-1		DisplayPort
> >> HDMI-1		----
> >> HDMI-2		HDMI
> >> HDMI-3		DVI
> >> DP-2		VGA
> 
> > I understand your concern, but  as you can see there are adaptors involved
> > here and they are decided by manufactures. From the driver perspective the
> > protocol is the most important part, but that gets sometimes really bad for
> > the users, I know.
> 
> By "adaptors", do you mean logical adapters in motherboard firmware that maybe
> an update could improve?

adapter... converter... something from the sw side we see as the protocol we support,
but it do whatever conversion needed to another format at the other end.

I don't understand how the update could solve this. But well... maybe that Paulo
mention to EDID and if the information is there. But with so many different
adapters out there from many different vendors I don't think it is worth trying
to guess an universal way.

> 
> > Honestly I don't know if there's a way to detect the presence of adapters
> > like this DP to VGA for instance. I don't think so.
> 
> > Afaik on HDMI-DP with LSPCON we do some tweak on the names to avoid
> > showing a misleading information, but that's is the further we can go I'm afraid...
> 
> Thanks for the reply.
> 
> BTW, DP daisy chaining the same motherboard I get the following:
> 
> Screen 0: minimum 320 x 200, current 4480 x 1200, maximum 8192 x 8192
> DP-1 disconnected primary (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> HDMI-1 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> HDMI-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> HDMI-3 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> DP-2 disconnected (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> DP-1-8 connected 2560x1080+0+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis) 673mm
> x 284mm
>    2560x1080     60.00*+
>    1920x1080     60.00    60.00    50.00    59.94    24.00    23.98
>    1680x1050     59.95
>    1280x1024     75.02    60.02
>    1280x800      59.81
>    1152x864      75.00
>    1280x720      60.00    50.00    59.94  ...
> DP-1-1 connected 1920x1200+2560+0 (normal left inverted right x axis y axis)
> 519mm x 324mm
>    1920x1200     59.95*+
>    1920x1080     60.00    59.94
>    1680x1050     59.95
>    1400x1050     59.98
>    1280x1024     60.02
>    1440x900      59.89
>    1280x960      60.00
>    1280x800      59.81
>    1280x720      60.00    59.94  ...
> 
> That logic looks backwards to me. DP-1-8 is the screen in the middle of the
> cable chain. :-p

Yeap... seems a bit backwards to me to... But does it really matter?

> 
> >> Is there anything with kernel, xrandr, driver, server (or other?) that might be
> >> changed to better associate the connector names to the actual connector types?
> >> Is this a motherboard firmware shortcoming?-- 
> "Wisdom is supreme; therefore get wisdom. Whatever else you
> get, get wisdom." Proverbs 4:7 (New Living Translation)
> 
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