sorry to write again but i messed up some pastes:
cyradm was some lm and this was the output:
user.forename^surename (\HasChildren)
user.forename^surename.Archiv (\HasNoChildren)
user.forename^surename.Gesendet (\HasNoChildren)
user.forename^surename.Sent (\HasNoChildren)
and here some lam:
localhost> lam user.forename^surename.Archiv
forename.surename lrswipkxtecdan
thanks for your time