Imap Folders not visible / subscribeable

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Hello, i got ubuntu 22.04 and a fresh install.

3.4.3-dirty-Debian-3.4.3-3build2

i am using saslauthd with ldap to active directory, have autocreate mailbox on login or lmpt delivery with subfolders and subscriptions.
Jul  4 17:59:06 mail cyrus/imaps[3609]: login: [10.119.99.10] forename.surename PLAIN+TLS User logged in SESSIONID=<cyrus-1688493546-3609-1-12051742222590018397>
Jul  4 17:59:06 mail cyrus/imaps[3609]: autocreateinbox: User forename.surename, INBOX was successfully created
Jul  4 17:59:06 mail cyrus/imaps[3609]: autocreateinbox: User forename.surename, subfolder Sent creation succeeded.
Jul  4 17:59:06 mail cyrus/imaps[3609]: autocreateinbox: User forename.surename, subscription to Sent succeeded
Jul  4 17:59:06 mail cyrus/imaps[3609]: autocreateinbox: User forename.surename, subfolder Archiv creation succeeded.
Jul  4 17:59:06 mail cyrus/imaps[3609]: autocreateinbox: User forename.surename, subscription to Archiv succeeded
Jul  4 17:59:06 mail cyrus/imaps[3609]: autocreateinbox: User forename.surename, subfolder Gesendet creation succeeded.
Jul  4 17:59:06 mail cyrus/imaps[3609]: autocreateinbox: User forename.surename, subscription to Gesendet succeeded
Jul  4 17:59:06 mail cyrus/imaps[3609]: User forename.surename, Inbox subfolders, created 3, subscribed 3



a cyradm lam:
user.forename^surename (\HasChildren)
user.forename^surename (\HasNoChildren)
user.forename^surename (\HasNoChildren)
user.forename^surename (\HasNoChildren)

i created some folders with thunderbird, they dont get shown either while querying folder list to subscribe stuff.
all the folders are not visible in thunderbird despite some restarts

user.forename^surename.INBOX^test (\HasNoChildren)
user.forename^surename.INBOX^test2 (\HasNoChildren)

some filesystem:
root@mail:/var/spool/cyrus/mail/u/user/forename^surename# ls -all
total 36
drwx------ 7 cyrus mail 4096 Jul  4 18:07  .
drwx------ 3 cyrus mail 4096 Jul  4 17:59  ..
drwx------ 2 cyrus mail 4096 Jul  4 17:59  Archiv
-rw------- 1 cyrus mail  192 Jul  4 17:59  cyrus.header
-rw------- 1 cyrus mail  160 Jul  4 17:59  cyrus.index
drwx------ 2 cyrus mail 4096 Jul  4 17:59  Gesendet
drwx------ 2 cyrus mail 4096 Jul  4 18:07 'INBOX^test'
drwx------ 2 cyrus mail 4096 Jul  4 17:59  Sent
drwx------ 2 cyrus mail 4096 Jul  4 18:07  Trash

vi /var/./lib/cyrus/user/u/forename.surename.sub

user.forename^surename
user.forename^surename.Archiv
user.forename^surename.Gesendet
user.forename^surename.INBOX^test
user.forename^surename.INBOX^test2
user.forename^surename.Sent
user.forename^surename.Trash

Thunderbird has some setting for the account "server setting" "advanced" "personal naming space" where a checkbox is ticked "allow server to supply the namespace" , i entered INBOX there and restarted but it didnt change a thing, i also changed the altnamespace imapd.conf setting and restarted cyrus, i am at a loss

a hint would be great
thank you alot

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