Re: Upgrade report debian cyrus

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Thanks for clarifying this Ellie, I thought the two issues are actually related.
And thanks for adding the mention to -G to the release notes.

Regards,
Savvas Karagiannidis

On Mon, Aug 5, 2019 at 3:22 AM ellie timoney <ellie@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 5:13 PM Lars Schimmer <l.schimmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
and on second run it did find a lot of mails with "reappending" messages.

Actually, this sounds like this bug: https://github.com/cyrusimap/cyrus-imapd/issues/2839 (fixed last week in 3.0.11)
There is a Debian report for it too: https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=933163

I guess we're going to see a lot of this here, as people start upgrading older systems to the new Debian stable and getting Debian's 3.0.8 instead of whatever they had before.


On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, at 12:44 AM, Savvas Karagiannidis wrote:
there was an issue when upgrading to 3.0.x from older versions (2.x). The issue is this:

Ellie explains the exact issues with old mail in the last comment before closing the issue mentioned above and I'm surprised to not see any mention of this (the -G parameter) in the 3.0 release notes and upgrade instructions...

Oh, I'd forgotten about that! I'm going to add a note about this to the reconstruct -G documentation as well as the upgrade notes.

It is a different issue though: the impact of #2208 (since the crash was fixed in 3.0.8, anyway) is being unable to replicate due to missing GUID's.  You need reconstruct with -G before upgrading if you plan to build a new server and replicate your old store to it (which you will find out when you try to replicate).  But it won't affect in-place upgrades until you try to replicate them somewhere later.

#2839 is rather more annoying because it affects in-place upgrades and copy-files-and-reconstruct upgrades!

Cheers,

ellie

On Fri, Aug 2, 2019, at 12:44 AM, Savvas Karagiannidis wrote:
Hi Lars,
there was an issue when upgrading to 3.0.x from older versions (2.x). The issue is this:

From my experience, the only way to safely upgrade to 3.0 was to run reconstruct -G -V max on all mailboxes while still in the older version.
Ellie explains the exact issues with old mail in the last comment before closing the issue mentioned above and I'm surprised to not see any mention of this (the -G parameter) in the 3.0 release notes and upgrade instructions...
You can still run reconstruct -G -V max on the new system with the latest version but the result will probably be that these older messages will appear as unread.


Regards,
Savvas Karagiannidis

On Thu, Aug 1, 2019 at 5:13 PM Lars Schimmer <l.schimmer@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
Hi!

Just upgraded my old debian cyrus 2.4.16-4+deb7u2 to cyrus 3.0.8-6.
I did use a new hardware system for this, copied over all mailbox,
sieve,.. data and did a recontruct.

It seems the reconstruct needs a few uns to reconstruct our 100GB mail
archive (in ~120 mailboxes).

I did a reconctruct -V max and it did not find all mails, I did run it
twice, and on second run it did find a lot of mails with "reappending"
messages.

Also, after migration, some users did not seem to have a inbox, I needed
to "cm user.xcy" and copy mailbox data into it and recontruct manually.
(seems like those are new mailboxes and are not in the copied data of
main cyrus db).

But some mailboxes were existent, but empty after the 2 reconstruct (and
quota) run, I did explicit run reconstruct -r -f user.xyyya on those.
To bad they got all mails as unseen.

On the most accounts all worked fine, but all mails prior to sept 2011
are set to unseen.
Seems like some change of dataformat, as I did upgrade in sept 2011 :-)

Now I sit here and wait for more error reports from the users.



MfG,
Lars Schimmer
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