On Wed, October 14, 2015 11:55 am, Eric Luyten wrote: > On Tue, October 13, 2015 10:43 pm, Bron Gondwana wrote: > >> On Wed, Oct 14, 2015, at 00:26, ktm@xxxxxxxx wrote: >> >> >>> The El Capitan Mac Mail was recently released. It definitely has a >>> problem. We saw our typical sync log size go from 10k when busy to 100k+. >>> We are >>> going to recommend that people wait to upgrade to that release until the >>> problem is addressed. >> >> I'll look into whether this is a problem (or as much of a problem) on later >> releases! Just to be clear - have you tracked the issue down to the >> EXPUNGE >> command using IO? > > > > Bron, > > > > I am more leaning towards issues in the handling of "IDLE" > > > > Is that a 'DONE' with a tag in the (almost) middle ??? > > > > > <1444816251<8<1444816251<7314.6476 IDLE > >> 1444816251>+ idling >> > <1444816251<D<1444816251<ONE > >> 1444816251>87314.6476 OK Completed >> > <1444816251<8<1444816251<7315.6476 EXPUNGE > >> 1444816251>* 0 EXISTS >> > * 0 RECENT > 87315.6476 OK Completed > <1444816251<8<1444816251<7316.6476 IDLE > >> 1444816251>+ idling >> > <1444816251<D<1444816251<ONE > >> 1444816251>87316.6476 OK Completed >> > <1444816251<8<1444816251<7317.6476 EXPUNGE > >> 1444816251>* 0 EXISTS >> > * 0 RECENT > 87317.6476 OK Completed > <1444816251<8<1444816251<7318.6476 IDLE > >> 1444816251>+ idling >> > <1444816251<D<1444816251<ONE > >> 1444816251>87318.6476 OK Completed >> > <1444816251<8<1444816251<7319.6476 EXPUNGE > >> 1444816251>* 0 EXISTS >> > * 0 RECENT > 87319.6476 OK Completed > > > > >> From http://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc2177 : >> > > > "The IDLE command is sent from the client to the server when the > client is ready to accept unsolicited mailbox update messages. The server > requests a response to the IDLE command using the continuation ("+") response. > The IDLE command remains active until the client > responds to the continuation, and as long as an IDLE command is active, the > server is now free to send untagged EXISTS, EXPUNGE, and other messages at any > time. > > The IDLE command is terminated by the receipt of a "DONE" > continuation from the client; such response satisfies the server's continuation > request. " > > > > Again ... if this has been solved in 2.4 or 2.5 branches, we'll upgrade > (management decisions on moving to Google Apps or Office365 taken into > account) Apologies for following up on follow-ups to myself... It looks like a timestamp, not a tag. Perhaps the telemetry logging is 2.3 was not 100% bugfree... Q: Why does Mac Mail generate an unneeded 'EXPUNGE' ? Bron, how can I turn off 'IDLE' in my 2.3 server capabilities ? Regards, Eric Luyten, Computing Centre VUB/ULB. ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/ To Unsubscribe: https://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/mailman/listinfo/info-cyrus