On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 12:40 PM, Patrick Boutilier <boutilpj@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > On 05/19/2012 04:02 PM, Stephen Ingram wrote: >> >> On Sat, May 19, 2012 at 10:58 AM, Patrick Boutilier >> <boutilpj@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >>> >>> On 05/19/2012 01:51 PM, Stephen Ingram wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> I'm running 2.4.13 from the invoca rpms on CentOS 5.8. I recently had >>>> an issue with a folder in a mailbox that would not show any >>>> subfolders. I created a new folder 'folder2' and moved all of the >>>> subfolders to it and then performed a reconstruct on the new set of >>>> folders and everything worked. Now I deleted the old folder 'folder' >>>> from the file system and then (after it wouldn't go away from the >>>> cyradm listing) used cyr_dbtool to manually remove it (and the >>>> subfolders) from the mailboxes.db file. The old folders and subfolders >>>> are now gone, however, I can't (using the IMAP client) rename >>>> 'folder2' back to 'folder' as when I do, the subfolders are not >>>> visible. >>>> >>>> I've dumped the mailboxes.db file to a flat file to look and see if >>>> there is anything in there that wasn't visible in cyradm or using >>>> cyr_dbtool show. Everything is as expected except there are some >>>> DELETED.user.xxx.folder entries at the top. Are you not allowed the >>>> create folders with the same name you've just deleted? Where are these >>>> DELETED folders actually stored and how long does it take them to go >>>> away? (I'm not using delayed expunge.) >>> >>> >>> >>> Sounds like you are using delayed delete. Mine show up in >>> /imap/mail/C/DELETED/ . How long they stay around depends on when you >>> run >>> cyr_expire and what parameters you give it. >>> >>> >>> Man page entries: >>> >>> deletedprefix: DELETED >>> If "delete_mode" set to be "delayed", the prefix for >>> the >>> deleted mailboxes hierarchy. The hierarchy delimiter will be >>> automatically >>> appended. >>> >>> delete_mode: immediate >>> The manner in which mailboxes are deleted. "immediate" mode is >>> the default behavior in which mailboxes are removed immediately. >>> In >>> "delayed" mode, mailboxes are renamed to a special hiearchy defined by >>> the >>> "deletedprefix" option to be removed later by cyr_expire. >>> >>> Allowed values: immediate, delayed >> >> >> I don't have any entry in imapd.conf for delete_mode so I'm thinking >> that it's using the default of immediate. I did check the file system >> again and I can't find those DELETED folders anywhere, so I'm guessing >> that mailboxes.db is just wrong probably because of some bug. At your >> suggestion, I checked cyr_expire and it is set to 3 days, so perhaps >> that's my issue. Maybe those entries in mailboxes.db will go away on >> their own after 3 days. I think I might wait just out of curiosity and >> then upgrade to 2.4.16 to see if these mailbox naming issue (bug >> 2685?) is solved. >> >> I wonder if there is any harm in removing those DELETED entries in >> mailboxes.db if I can't find them anywhere in the file system? > > > I am thinking the worst that would happen is you get an I/O error if the > DELETED hierarchy really doesn't exist. > > Have you tried mbpath? For example: > > [root@student ~]# /usr/local/cyrus/bin/mbpath DELETED.user.whoj.4FB1557F > > /imap/mail/C/DELETED/user/whoj/4FB1557F Wow, thanks! I didn't know about that command. It exposed them! Strange, they were in /var/spool/imap/u/DELETED/ (my mailbox root is /var/spool/imap). I'm not sure why they wouldn't be in /var/spool/imap/j/user/jmaxwell (jmaxwell is the user), but perhaps it's because I haven't defined deleted_prefix as you pointed out earlier. Maybe /var/spool/imap/u/DELETED is the default. Looking at all of the files in there, several are older than the 3 days they are supposed to be. I'm guessing that means there was a bug somewhere. I guess I should remove all of these, reconstruct the mailboxes.db to match and then probably upgrade as Bron suggested. Thanks, again. I never would have found those files. Steve ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/