I'm running 2.4.13 from the invoca rpms on CentOS 5.8. I recently had an issue with a folder in a mailbox that would not show any subfolders. I created a new folder 'folder2' and moved all of the subfolders to it and then performed a reconstruct on the new set of folders and everything worked. Now I deleted the old folder 'folder' from the file system and then (after it wouldn't go away from the cyradm listing) used cyr_dbtool to manually remove it (and the subfolders) from the mailboxes.db file. The old folders and subfolders are now gone, however, I can't (using the IMAP client) rename 'folder2' back to 'folder' as when I do, the subfolders are not visible. I've dumped the mailboxes.db file to a flat file to look and see if there is anything in there that wasn't visible in cyradm or using cyr_dbtool show. Everything is as expected except there are some DELETED.user.xxx.folder entries at the top. Are you not allowed the create folders with the same name you've just deleted? Where are these DELETED folders actually stored and how long does it take them to go away? (I'm not using delayed expunge.) If that's not the issue, then is there some other file besides mailboxes.db that might contain bad information or is this a bug in the system? Steve ---- Cyrus Home Page: http://www.cyrusimap.org/ List Archives/Info: http://lists.andrew.cmu.edu/pipermail/info-cyrus/