In article <68ab4f9e057d49b0972f97a907f45ced@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> you write: >The issue is, when government representative participate to IETF (or a RIR, or ICANN, or a NOG), they do >so in their official capacity, thus representing to some extent their organisation. They (we) do >understand the concept, however it is impossible to attend without this sort of "official" hat. So on one >hand there is Joe-as-himself, and on the other hand there in Alice-as-a-whole-government-rep. How do we >make this work better for everyone's benefit in IETF? When Alice heads for the conference she may be a government rep, but when she arrives and gets her badge, she's Alice who happens to work for the Ministry of whatever. Lots of people from governments come to IETF meetings and work this way. Just this afternoon we had a very interesting discussion in the security displatch group in which someone who works for the UK government presented a draft she had co-written, people made comments and figured out how it could progress in relation with other IETF work. This is only a problem if you think it is. We know it's not an inherent problem since people from many governments have productively worked with the IETF for a long time. R's, John