> Right now the standard is begging on twitter for a chain of > introductions. and it works, i am embarrassed to say. and one hears about outages on the ops lists before one sees the automatic outage detector reports. sitting across the hudson, i heard of the wtc attack on nanog almost two minutes before it came on television. these half-assed "the market demands something" panaceas provide false solutions we have to clean up later; emphasis on that last clause. rwhois anyone? the highway is littered with whitepages roadkill. today there is a massive problem with authority in the IRR (which some RIRs throw in with whois); and retrofitting a solution is now years in blah blah blah. no one is asking for the perfect over the good. but it is our obligation, before putting the ietf stamp on it, for it to be as good as we can reasonably get for the time. this proposal is not, as has been enumerated time and again as it has been shoved through the process over objections. imiho, tero's review stands. randy -- last-call mailing list last-call@xxxxxxxx https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/last-call