Terry, Barry, > On Nov 19, 2019, at 3:03 PM, Terry Manderson <terry@xxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> On 19 Nov 2019, at 2:42 pm, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> I think this is wildly inappropriate. I think those of us in IETF >> leadership should be scrupulously careful NOT to call out our IETF >> affiliations this way unless we are speaking for the organization. >> The fact that the letter refers to things that have been published >> with IAB consensus doesn’t change the fact that the *letter* does not >> have IAB consensus, and we must be careful not to give the impression >> that it does. >> > > Wildly? I don’t share that view. Generally inappropriate - yes. I agree it was inappropriate. > >> happen again, and I hope the ensuing discussion supports that. >> > > The answer here, in my opinion, is fairly simple. > > If the IAB make a statement, we know what that looks like. > > If a collective of individuals choose to make a statement then it is done with ALL of their credentials (with permission), or none of their credentials. If a company (as a part of their credentials list) decides to not allow someone to not include them, then I feel that person shouldn’t use any credentials aside from their own academic honorific. I think that is correct for the reasons you state. Note, if I had been asked, I would have signed it. I would have not included my day job affiliation, nor any other organization I am involved with. I would be fine if Ted adds my name to the letter. Bob > > This is something that was drummed into me years ago by a brilliant legal rep. > Simply; “you don’t speak for them, nor can you imply it, unless you have their express permission - removing some, but keeping others associates weight of support from an organisation” I remember those words so clearly. > > Of course, YMMV. > > Cheers, > Terry > >
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