> On 19 Nov 2019, at 2:42 pm, Barry Leiba <barryleiba@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I think this is wildly inappropriate. I think those of us in IETF > leadership should be scrupulously careful NOT to call out our IETF > affiliations this way unless we are speaking for the organization. > The fact that the letter refers to things that have been published > with IAB consensus doesn’t change the fact that the *letter* does not > have IAB consensus, and we must be careful not to give the impression > that it does. > Wildly? I don’t share that view. Generally inappropriate - yes. > happen again, and I hope the ensuing discussion supports that. > The answer here, in my opinion, is fairly simple. If the IAB make a statement, we know what that looks like. If a collective of individuals choose to make a statement then it is done with ALL of their credentials (with permission), or none of their credentials. If a company (as a part of their credentials list) decides to not allow someone to not include them, then I feel that person shouldn’t use any credentials aside from their own academic honorific. This is something that was drummed into me years ago by a brilliant legal rep. Simply; “you don’t speak for them, nor can you imply it, unless you have their express permission - removing some, but keeping others associates weight of support from an organisation” I remember those words so clearly. Of course, YMMV. Cheers, Terry