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While I think that blocking something like GitHub is a bad thing
to do, I'm not suggesting we step into another's country's
politics.
My question is mostly about the practicalities of how attendees
will be able to use GitHub if the block is still in place then. We
are doing an increasing amount of IETF work in GitHub, and
attendees need access to it to do other work as well. If we can
negotiate an arrangement that will exempt the IETF network from
the block, that would (IMO) be a minimally acceptable solution. Of
course, attendees staying offsite would still need to use a VPN or
something to access GitHub from their hotel, AirBNB, etc. and
that's still a bad situation.
On 11/1/19 10:09 AM, Robert Raszuk
wrote:
Jared,
I think Jim's last worry was about IETF network :) The way
I read and understand it that having IETF in Madrid indirectly
support such Spain gov actions.
I suggest we move it to Barcelona.
Thx,
R.
> On Nov 1, 2019, at 1:01 PM, Jim Fenton <fenton@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
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> I'm hearing that Spain is blocking GitHub:
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> https://reclaimthenet.org/github-spain-blocked-catalan-protests/
>
> If that were to continue, how would we handle that for
IETF 108 (next
> July in Madrid)?
Relevance?
Often these blocks are either done in local DNS or at the
local ISP level. When IETF rolls in, the network is often not
part of this. You’ve seen this work well in countries where
the local blocking might have been an issue, the most
prominent of them being IETF in China.
I get that some people don’t like GitHub and if you want to
ask IETF to run a gitlab instance or similar it would likely
mitigate the issue as well.
- jared
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