In that case, you are talking about a slightly different case - and one not nearly so hard to wrap my head around. It would be rare for an ID to get that far before things went that far south, but it clearly could happen. Usually, if the ID was a WG chartered item, I would imagine the WG would first try to resolve issues raised during the IETF last call. Otherwise the WG could elect to drop it and the original authors might then go for publication as an individual RFC. I know of at least a small number of Internet Drafts that have either failed to be adopted by a WG, or been dropped by a WG - and subsequently published as an individual RFC. I cannot recall any that have gotten past WG consensus and IESG review that failed to achieve IETF last call consensus and were then kicked back all the way to the original authors. But - like I said - it could happen... -----Original Message----- From: Barry Leiba <barryleiba@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, October 15, 2019 2:46 PM To: Eric Gray <eric.gray@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Joel M. Halpern <jmh@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; IETF discussion list <ietf@xxxxxxxx>; Jiankang Yao <yaojk@xxxxxxxx>; draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration.all <draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration.all@xxxxxxxx>; John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx>; General Area Review Team <gen-art@xxxxxxxx>; regext <regext@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Gen-art] [regext] Genart telechat review of draft-ietf-regext-bundling-registration-11 Importance: High > If (for some reason) it does not gain rough consensus from the IETF as > a whole (and this seems to be an extreme corner case), then it could > be published as an individual RFC - but should be kicked back to the WG to make this decision. Oh, yes, absolutely that: at the first cut, it will have to be the working group that decides where to go from here. Barry