Hi,
Thanks for all the work Niels & Kathleen. Some nits:
1. has the Tao been updated to include the new mailinglist that arose out of the flurry of emails on the ietf@ietf mailing list? should it?
2. related, the current text says that "the ietf discussion list is unmoderated" is that correct? it seems like there is some moderation going on, with interventions from the SAA's (leaving aside the debate about how much moderation is good moderation) which you mention later on in that paragraph.
3. "For many people, IETF meetings are a breath of fresh air when compared
to the standard computer industry conferences." I am sure this is true, yet for many people IETF meetings are not necessarily the most pleasant of places, as was reflected in the debate about newcomer experiences during the plenary some 3 or 4 IETFs ago? I understand what you are saying - but maybe some text can be found that takes both those extreme ends into consideration?
4. s/ombudsteam/Ombudsteam
5. "If you are participating an IETF meeting for the first time">> insert "in" an
6. s/high volumen/high volume
7. s/to the chairs of the working group your/you are
8. Okay granted this one is a bit of a gripe, but "dress for the weather" should maybe be dress for hotel A/C and/or the weather, but definitely the A/C, because that one is a given.
9. "3.6 Seeing Spots Before Your Eyes", this strikes me as a Dutchism but maybe I am wrong? Either way it make more sense to change it to "seeing dots"?
10. (Members of the press wear orange tinted badges
with the word 'press' on it.) s/it/them bc badges = plural
11. I am a bit confused about this language re:what the terminal room is for: "Although preparation far in advance of the meeting is encouraged, there
may be some unavoidable "last minute" things that can be accomplished
in the terminal room." makes it sounds a lot more exciting than I have found it to be: a quiet working space where people can print stuff or complain about the network.
12. s/If sponsorship for it is secure/
If sponsorship for it is secured
13. "Small-sized agendas are available for pickup at the registration desk
for those with good eyesight who want to keep a copy in their pocket or
attached to the back of their badge." Not sure this is necessary: "for those with good eyesight"
14. s/behooves/behoves
15. s/This is a hopefully-final time fo/ This is a hopefully-final time for
16. s/and your more likely to receive comments and
feedback on your work/ and you are more likely to receive comments and
feedback on your work.
17. s/query is not availble/ available
Hope this is helpful!
CCS
On May 22, 2019 19:17, Job Snijders <job@xxxxxxx> wrote:
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> Ps Would it be possible to make the Table of Contents listing clickable URIs to anchors, so that one can link directly to a section or paragraph?
>
Fixed!
> On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 19:05 Niels ten Oever <lists@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote:
>>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Since 1993 the Tao of the IETF has functioned as a guide for new attendees to the IETF. Over time both the IETF and the Tao have changed. The last revision of the Tao was in 2012, which led us to believe it might be time for a new version. This new version is what we would like to present to you today.
>>
>> https://ietf.org/tao.html
>>
>> We, the editors, have built on the work of great editors before us, and benefited greatly from suggestions, comments, and reviews from the community in general, and from the tao-discuss list [0] and the IESG specifically.
>>
>> We hope you will deem the new version of the Tao an improvement, and above all we hope this will help and stimulate new participants to become part of our community.
>>
>> Translations of previous versions of the Tao [1] have been contributed by several organizations. If you or your organization would be interested in contributing a translation of this updated version, please contact the IETF Chair.
>>
>> If you have comments, questions or suggestions, these are all very welcome on the tao-discuss list [0], and we are also very happy with suggestions in the form of pull requests on Github [2].
>>
>> Best,
>>
>> Niels ten Oever & Kathleen Moriarty
>> Editors of the Tao of the IETF
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>> [2] https://github.com/nllz/Tao-of-the-IETF/blob/master/Tao.md
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