Hi, I try to reply to emails in the order they came in, so sorry John, wasn't trying to beat you up with the "Heather is leading a call" thing. :) Thanks for following up. I still hold that you should join one of the calls and share that feedback. It's a useful path forward, and one that We should discuss. Thanks Sarah > On Sep 13, 2019, at 8:54 AM, John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > > Sarah and everyone else, > > It has been pointed out to me off list that I didn't mention the > process Heather is trying to convene to discuss general > directions. I apologize; it is what happens when I try to cut > a message down to shorten it. > > I think that is a great idea. > > But, in the context of my earlier note, what I'm worried about > is the community perception of the credibility of the steering > and decision processes. In that context, I'd like to see > Heather (or a panel acting as a surrogate for Heather and her > predecessors) actually have the leadership responsibility and > authority for this, not just acting to convene interested people > for a discussion, something that, in principle, any IETF > participant could do. > > I hope that is a bit more clear and, again, apologies for the > omission. > > john