Tue, Sep 03, 2019 at 10:02:19AM +0100, Stephen Farrell: > On 03/09/2019 02:51, Alissa Cooper wrote: > > a firmer commitment to building a respectful environment > > I've two quibbles with how you expressed that. > > I think we want an environment where we are all respectful > of the people participating (or not participating) in the > IETF, but we explicitly do not want participants to be > overly respectful of the (current) organisational structures, > Secondly, we also do not want IETF participants to be > shy criticising what they consider technically bad ideas. Perhaps "a polite and considerate environment," is a more accurate description of the intention. Respect is different and can not be commanded nor is it automatic, it must be earned. IMO.
