Hi Eliot, I think I agree with you. I also will take advantage of your message and say (for the 2nd or 3rd time) that IETF should consider the environment/ecosystem/climate when developing new protocols. In the same way required sections such as: "IANA Considerations Section" and/or "Security Considerations Section" exists, one more section called something like: "Environment impact" should exists. I know this is difficult to measure, however I do have faith that it will make the authors thinks twice when designing protocols (battery friendly/consumption) My two cents. Alejandro, On 7/22/19 6:09 PM, Eliot Lear wrote: > Hi everyone, > > From time to time we talk about changing our meeting modalities, and we certainly have done so a bit. Not so much the plenary, face to face meetings. For the last 28 years or so, we’ve been meeting three times per year (previously it was four!), and we will continue to do so for a while. But it’s at least possible that we could meet more effectively and maybe even with fewer plenaries. > > Many of us travel great distances just to attend a handful of working groups, especially if we are specialized. And those working groups meet for an hour or two, and then modulo the hallway conversations, were done. Being perfectly frank about my own motivations, my daughter wants to know why I generate so much CO2, in what is all too fast becoming her generation’s greatest challenge, and our generation’s greatest shame. > > Even so, I am not prepared to propose any particular recommendation, but rather find a way to get to that point through a concerted professional effort that is not performed on the ietf mailing list ;-) > > And so draft-lear-we-gotta-stop-meeting-like-this asks the LLC *not* to change our meeting structure, but to bring in the right people to study it in consultation with the IESG, and then to come back with some recommendations for the community’s consideration. There are no timetables in the draft. That’s because this might take some time. And yes there are some financial impacts to be considered, not to mention human impact, not just on standards making, but on the valuable work being done at the Hackathon, and in other activities that colocate with us. > > Anyway, have a read. See what you think. I’ll be mentioning this at a mic comment in the plenary. > > Eliot
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