Loganaden, Ted, and others, Remote participation fees have been suggested on and off for years, with the main motivations being providing a small bar against various types of silliness, people posing as others or as multiple people, etc. I've been one of those suggesting them for those and other reasons, including allowing a small bit more authentication. I don't recall any proposals that seriously suggested such fees would provide significant secretariat support and/or support for the costs of running Meetecho, etc., because most ways of calculating such fees would be enough to drive most potential remote participants, even from industrialized countries, away. However, that has come up a few times too. At no time have the IESG, the former IAD or IAOC, or others seemed interested in taking the topic up. Should they do so, we can then have a conversation about formulas and charges. I'd predict those discussions would lead to a far more complex formula than anyone really wants to deal with (e.g., something based on cost of living or median income in various countries), at least until things settled down on something with encouragement for exceptions or exemptions when needed (much as we have now). Perhaps anticipation of that likely long and painful discussion is one of the reasons why at least some of those actors have not been interested in pursing such fees. But, please, lets keep that discussion as separate as possible from the rather narrow scope of draft-moonesamy-recall-rev (hence the change in the subject line). If someone does feel this is the time to take it up, let's see a proposal in I-D form. best, john --On Sunday, 26 May, 2019 12:54 +0400 Loganaden Velvindron <loganaden@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> People can disagree about how likely that redchan or gab.com >> participants would try to game the system in the future >> (perhaps it's not likely, but the Linux Kernel development >> community has not been immune from their interest), but >> requiring a real registration fee would no doubt decrease >> that risk. Futhermore, since we've already decided that it's >> OK to require a registration fee for in-person attendance, >> requiring something similar for remote participants --- since >> the claim is that they should have all of the rights and >> responsibilities pertaining thereto --- would seem only fair. >> >> >> [Speaking as the organizer of an ietf remote hub from >> Mauritius] > > We've been contributed patches for TLS 1.3, IPv6, DNS, http451 > in open source > projects during the IETF hackathons. We're also working on a > few drafts. We have a lot > of high school and university students among ourselves. > > We're OK with paying the registration fees provided that they > are reasonable. > > There are countries such as Madagascar who are trying to > organize their own IETF > hubs but their Cost of living is lower than us. What is > reasonable to us might be expensive > to them. > > Could there be a remote registration fee calculated per > country ?
