Re: Comments on draft-roach-bis-documents-00

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Levine" <johnl@xxxxxxxxx>
To: <ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: Comments on draft-roach-bis-documents-00


> In article <F5B1D471CB679CF8B803F0CE@PSB> you write:
> >Of course, one could modify/update 2026 to match the intent of
> >this I-D, but I assume that would be considered a much more
> >major step.
>
> While not wanting to derail the ongoing conversation, this topic is
> making me think that we have a lot of processes that we never change
> for little more reason than that we've never changed them.  Here's
> two that this discussion makes me think of:
>
> There's the question of what authors to put on a bis document since
> the original authors may have lost interest or in some cases died.

Give both and their relationship. I would say that this is quite common
within the IETF as in e.g. RFC2579. I do not think that there is a
formal way of doing this but I find the meaning clear.

Tom Petch

> Academic papers often identify one or two of a long list of authors as
> the corresponding authors, to whom you write if you have questions or
> comments.  The five author limit apparently dates from a desire that
> all of the listed authors be the corresponding ones, but that was when
> everyone was a lot younger.  Even if we keep the limit at five,
> putting a star next to one or two of them wouldn't be that hard.
>
> More radically, the theory that RFCs never change dates from when they
> were on paper and nobody wanted to find all the copies and apply
> whiteout.  While I don't think it would be a good idea to have
> different documents floating around all called, say, RFC 3514, we
> could call revised versions 3514.1 and 3514.2 like other SDOs do and
> the world wouldn't come to an end.
>
> Again I am not suggesting we stop thinking about this draft, but I do
> think we should try and recognize places where we are working around
> our processes rather than our processes working for us.
>
> R's,
> John
>





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