> ISTM taking the approach outlined in Martin's draft with QUIC > is a good plan. I also know that this approach has improved > TLS even though TLS didn't start out doing things this way. > And I can totally buy it being valuable to at least consider > taking this approach for any new work. So I do like the core > idea on which the draft is based. as a naggumite, being liberal in what one accepts seems too much of a recipe for entropic chaos. i would rather catch and fix my (and your) bugs early. randy