I also looked at the posts, and agree with the conclusions and proposed action. Bob > On May 4, 2019, at 8:34 PM, Spencer Dawkins at IETF <spencerdawkins.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > I could say more, but John said what I needed to say, better than I would have. > > I find this appropropriate. > > Best regards, of course. > > Spencer > > On Fri, May 3, 2019 at 11:39 PM John C Klensin <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: > Adam, > > The necessity for this move saddens me, but I agree with those > who favor this action. I would add to your list the suggestion > that much of the July 2018 thread on the IETF list that contains > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/fo_yF-u0B7UE0qPGSurPilbGbak > Is off-topic for the IETF (that particular message appears to > call for Android software modifications) and some of those > messages, including > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/zs19Nz1KJmfAmKHPx4pX2hXaYwk > includes claims about person injuries that are even more clearly > off-topic for the IETF. Continuing that discussion after being > told by several people, both on and off list clearly changes the > S/N ratio on the IETF list in negative directions and is hence > disruptive. > > Other messages, while they contain some content that might be > relevant to the IETF, also contain considerable (well over 50%) > content that is irrelevant and, by its nature, disruptive. See, > for example, > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/FE6vkL_Ego7-DDP-YhjeXn_FCJQ > or > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf/Ohn5gHK3SU3HObz_axDzW3lS1qY > where the latter contains even less IETF-relevant material. > > My point in mentioning the above is to point out that the > problem behavior has been going on for rather a long time and on > multiple IETF lists. > > best, > john > > > > --On Friday, May 3, 2019 16:08 -0500 Adam Roach > <adam@xxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > The ART area directors have received a request from several > > individuals to > > revoke the posting rights to IETF mailing lists of Pradeep > > Kumar Xplorer as > > per the procedures in BCP 83 (RFC 3683). > > > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and > > solicits final > > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to > > the ietf@xxxxxxxx > > mailing lists by 2019-03-17. Exceptionally, comments may be > > sent to > > iesg@xxxxxxxx instead. In either case, please retain the > > Subject line to allow > > automated sorting. > > > > PLEASE NOTE: Comments should be limited to the criteria > > described in BCP 83, > > specifically in this case whether the person has posted > > "discussion of > > subjects unrelated to IETF policy, meetings, activities, or > > technical > > concerns" or "unprofessional commentary, regardless of the > > general subject", > > and whether such posts have had an effect to "disrupt the > > consensus-driven > > process." In particular, IT IS INAPPROPRIATE TO MAKE COMMENTS > > ABOUT THE > > POSTER'S STATE OF MIND WHILE MAKING THESE POSTS OR WHETHER THE > > POSTS HAVE SOME > > BROADER MEANING OUTSIDE OF THE IETF PROCESS. The questions > > posed by this Last > > Call are whether the posts are off-topic, whether the posts > > disrupt the > > process, and whether the PR-action is the appropriate remedy. > > > > The following is an incomplete sampling of messages that have > > been identified > > as being potentially off-topic and disrupting: > > > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-smtp/CneRIG1vjNNbFY > > PW-z7mtUXe8Ik > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-smtp/ZOczccDHvHHpD6 > > XaYc_UFLTPrYQ > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-smtp/hErM9rufrp_qaj > > 8CAHF96itK84I > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/ietf-smtp/1r0EIqqHCkDgwR > > 32w3MuBSWrOc0 > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/http-auth/-KvTfv1sl6Z7QS > > KBHNaKg0UYw28 > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/kT3lDkJvhKeFXSVZaJaX > > fyXNT24 > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/iqARH4h-OkNdQ7eeziUl > > 66sLFqk > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/k46FrrbEaYzCkKetjL1S > > apZ6Jq0 > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/7eovYBGvWq-yLmlUgIBC > > X2fqST0 > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/Xw3anU69JWowFQvpbA8N > > NVsCASI > > https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/msg/art/CDwYKiVjwbVNJXD_OyYF > > c2K91q4 > > > > /Adam Roach > > > > > >
