Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 - ref to 802.11 standard - free or not free

[Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@xxxxxxxxx>]

Pascal,

I would like to clarify this.

At this time I dont have access to 802.11 standard.  I dont think you have access either, other than via your organisation maybe, but not as an individual.

Please let me know whether you have free access?

Can you click and get the document now?

Many people say IEEE 802.11-2016 is free, but it depends what they mean by free.  At this time I understand it can be "*Please note: free consultation available to organizations only, not for individuals or students."

I would like to debug this to better understand.  Web browsing is not easy.

The page you point to leads to this figure (https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7786995)

Remark "You do not have access to this PDF" when rolling the mouse over the small red "PDF" button which becomes black.

Then, I click on that PDF button and I obtain this login page.  This login page says that I should Sign In to access this free standard.

That requests to create an account.  I try to create an account.

Then that says "Thank you for your submission", and "An IEEE Content Specialist will contact you soon".

Alex

Le 08/04/2019 à 15:13, Pascal Thubert (pthubert) a écrit :

"
The PDF of this standard is available at no cost compliments of the IEEE GET program http://ieeexplore.ieee.org/browse/standards/get-program/page/)
"
=> https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/7786995 

All the best,

Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: Alexandre Petrescu <alexandre.petrescu@xxxxxxxxx>
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To: Pascal Thubert (pthubert) <pthubert@xxxxxxxxx>
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Subject: Re: Intdir early review of draft-ietf-ipwave-ipv6-over-80211ocb-34 -
ref ro 802.11 standard


Le 04/03/2019 à 12:24, Pascal Thubert a écrit :

Reviewer: Pascal Thubert
Review result: Not Ready

[...]

Nits
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"
    IP packets MUST be transmitted over 802.11-OCB media as QoS Data
    frames whose format is specified in IEEE Std 802.11.
"
Please add link to the reference

I added like below.

But beware that:
- it is the third time we refer to this document in the text.
- the document behind the URL is behind a paywall, even though the
   description of the document is free of access.


NEW:

   IP packets MUST be transmitted over 802.11-OCB media as QoS Data
   frames whose format is specified in IEEE 802.11(TM) -2016
   [IEEE-802.11-2016].

[...]

   [IEEE-802.11-2016]
              "IEEE Standard 802.11-2016 - IEEE Standard for Information
              Technology - Telecommunications and information exchange
              between systems Local and metropolitan area networks -
              Specific requirements - Part 11: Wireless LAN Medium
              Access Control (MAC) and Physical Layer (PHY)
              Specifications. Status - Active Standard.  Description
              retrieved freely on September 12th, 2017, at URL
              https://standards.ieee.org/findstds/
              standard/802.11-2016.html".

Alex