On 3/31/19 7:14 PM, John C Klensin wrote: p.s. I very much appreciate the massive efforts that have been made, by very many parties, to make remote participation as effective as it is now. (The NOC teams get a special mention as do the Meetecho folks and also meeting sponsors, and I'm sure I'm leaving a lot of people out.)Me too. But, in a way, we need to accept that the success of those efforts, moving remote participation from something a regular f2f participant might use occasionally to get by to an effective way to actively participate while coming physically to few or no meetings, require other adjustments. A lot of that work has fallen on the tools team, especially Henrik, because of, e.g., the need to adjust the way agendas are handled, and on various educational efforts. The IETF does not, IMO, appreciate those efforts often enough and clearly enough. The need to look at IETF procedures that were originally developed in and just after the POISED effort of the first half of the 1990s and occasionally tuned since and address the question of whether they are appropriate to 2019 reality is also on that list. From that standpoint, this effort to tune the recall procedure is just one such measure. very much agree. Keith |