Re: Finding the appropriate work stream for draft-nottingham-for-the-users

["Paul Hoffman" <paul.hoffman@xxxxxxxx>]

If this document is to be published other than in the ISE stream, it 
should be published with IETF consensus. The IETF as a whole could 
easily have greater expertise in how to prioritize decisions for end 
users than the IAB does. As has been seen on this thread already, we 
certainly have strong and diverging views on that topic.

Having said that, even though we have expertise in listing the 
conflicting things the set of end users might need to weigh for 
particular choices, I doubt we have expertise in understanding how the 
individuals in the this very large and diverse set would weigh them. 
Even if we understand our own individual methods for weighing multiple 
divergent views about things that affect us, we are unlikely to 
understand how others do so.

Section 4 of the draft talks about how we should prioritize, but it 
doesn't say why we think we can do so. If we prioritize for the set of 
end users without understanding how the individuals in that set 
prioritize for themselves, this document is not valuable. Worse, if we 
ignore that individuals in that set will prioritize quite differently, 
then this document can be actively harmful because we will solidify our 
decision process around ideas that dump very divergent end users into 
one bucket.

--Paul Hoffman