----- Original Message ----- From: "Carsten Bormann" <cabo@xxxxxxx> Sent: Friday, March 08, 2019 6:35 AM On Mar 8, 2019, at 07:20, John Levine <johnl@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > >> If Adi can't get a visa, who can? > > During a government shutdown, probably nobody. But that’s the point: We don’t want to choose venues in countries that are unstable. (Re the Brexit comment: Unfortunately, the UK is now also entering an unstable phase.) <tp> An interesting report in the papers today was that going from an EU country to another can require a passport valid only until date of departure whereas coming from outside the EU the requirement can be to have several months validity remaining after the expected date of departure; which has just entered the collective consciousness which in turn has caused a sharp rise in applications for passport renewals which caused the passsport renewal server to crash. Yes, unstable (if entirely foreseable). More generally, things happen and we can never be sure that everyone who wants to will be able to attend an IETF meeting; it is a question of best efforts, keeping track of the failures that occur and making informed decisions.. Tom Petch Grüße, Carsten