I can not agree with mr Farrell enough on this. Tim >From my high tech gadget > On Dec 11, 2018, at 19:20, Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > Hiya, > >> On 11/12/2018 23:58, Warren Kumari wrote: >> * having some presentations / discussions on "how X works when deployed / >> implementation shortcomings". As an example, at the IEPG meeting in >> Yokohama (IETF94) these was a presentation on "MODERN ROUTER ARCHITECTURE >> FOR PROTOCOL DESIGNERS" - >> http://www.iepg.org/2015-11-01-ietf94/IEPG-RouterArchitecture-jgs.pdf . As >> another example, I was recently informed of a surprising limitation in TLS >> libraries -- these are apparently well known to those who work in this >> space, but I'd certainly never heard of them. I think that we (IETF >> participants in general) sometimes fall into believing that we know how >> technology X works because we've helped design it, but don't necessarily >> know what happens once it escapes our clutches / flies out of the nest. >> * consider having a BoF on this / these topics. >> * perhaps something like a workshop? > > Maybe consider moving IEPG to a more prime-time IETF > meeting week slot? (Or any equivalent.) The couple of > times I've gotten to IEPG, I was struck by how it was > higher quality than average IETF presentations. For > me, I always really like finding out about cases where > reality != theory and I bet I'm far from alone. > > So, I'd argue a bit against a one-off BoF or workshop > and more for a recurring opportunity for fact-based > detailed presentations. > > S. > <0x5AB2FAF17B172BEA.asc>