Randy >tracert www.irtf.orgUnable to resolve target system name www.irtf.org. the traceroute isn't interesting. the deliberate unnecessary complexity of the system and the failure to maintain it is interesting... Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx http://about.me/lloydwood ________________________________ From: Randy Bush <randy@xxxxxxx> To: Lloyd Wood <lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: IETF Discussion Mailing List <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Sent: Saturday, 10 November 2018, 17:41 Subject: Re: www.irtf.org unreachable? > Is there any particular reason www.irtf.org appears > to be unreachable? from where? like a traceroute?