On Tue, Jul 31, 2018 at 08:49:57AM +1200, Brian E Carpenter wrote: > On 31/07/2018 06:48, Ted Lemon wrote: > .... > > I don't see any point in the IETF paying just travel expenses: either you > > have a sponsor or you don't. > > Not so simple. At least in the academic or publicly-funded research world, > it may well happen that your employer is happy for you to spend some > of your research *time* on standards-related work, but you don't have any > research *money* for the associated expenses. > > It's quite different working for a business, where your time is measured > and company rules may even forbid you to accept outside funding. Except that it is a lot more likely that the employer will be fine with outside engagements that have "(partially) expenses covered", given how that is fairly common when you are a speaker at some event and therefore do not have to pay registration fees or the like. Of course even that can be turned into a torture chamber ceremony by corporate HR, Travel and Legal bureaucrats, but at least its just waterboarding and not guillotine. > In some cases, service to the technical community gets kudos in annual > performance reviews. In other cases, it's considered a waste of time. > > One size absolutely does not fit all. FlexAD ? ;-) Toerless > Brian