but which argument was true? Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx http://about.me/lloydwood ; On Monday, 30 July 2018, 06:33:03 GMT+10, Brian E Carpenter <brian.e.carpenter@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: I doubt that a one-size-fits-all business case can be written. I had to convince two very different managements (a non-commercial scientific research lab, and a major IT vendor) to fund participation in IETF roles, and the arguments I had to use were utterly different in the two cases. Brian