Michael, My [GD] attempts to answer are below -glenn On 7/18/18, 7:04 PM, "ietf on behalf of Michael Richardson" <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx on behalf of mcr+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: (greetings from a campsite in Northern Ontario...) Andrew Sullivan <ajs@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: > in the IASA. It appears that procedures were not always written down > as completely as one might like, and the apparent gaps have had to be > filled in from people's recollections. Could we have a list of the things that were filled in? Maybe the community will notice that the recollection was inaccurate? [GD] At this point the new procedures are in place and it would be an extraordinary effort to attempt [GD] go back create such a list. > is not available). Accordingly, the IAOC closed the Tools Management > Committee. At the same meeting, the IAOC closed the Sponsorship How will the tools work be supervised, and reported to the community? [GD] [GD] The Tools work and reporting continues as it was except there is no longer an IAOC subcommittee in [GD] the middle. See the Tools team page: https://www.ietf.org/about/groups/tools/ > https://iaoc.ietf.org/venue-selection.html. An important part of that > has been the replacement of the former Meetings Committee with a new > Venue Review Committee. The new committee is intended to be quite > limited in its scope, because its primary task is to evaluate staff > recommendations for conformance with the MTGVENUE criteria. This is > not an algorithm, of course, so some judgement will be required. But > the process is intended to be lightweight and transparent to the > community. We're continuing to refine procedures for this, and you > should expect to see more announcements over time. Will the reviews be public? In particular, will reasons for rejecting sites be public? I don't think the previous evaluation was public, but maybe I just never looked in the right place. [GD] [GD] The new process that was just established based on MTGVENUE is documented in: https://iaoc.ietf.org/venue-selection-roles-and-processes.html . [GD] [GD] [GD] From section 3. Qualification [GD] [GD] 8. The IAOC updates the published list of candidate meeting cities, identifying which have been selected [GD] as qualified meeting cities and which are not. This is the list of meeting locations that the IAOC will select [GD] to hold IETF meetings at. [GD] Note: The public list only contains city level information and will not include information about venues. [GD] [GD] The list of rejected cites will be published, but it will not contain detailed information about the venue. [GD] [GD] However, for cities which are actually contracted to host a meeting, information will be published as per section 4 Negotiation.... [GD] [GD] Section 4. Negotiation [GD] [GD] 5. The IAOC/IAD announce the chosen contracted venue. The announcement MUST include any notable [GD] economic, health, or safety risks or references thereto, as well as the venue's compliance with the [GD] meeting criteria. [GD] [GD] [GD] -glenn