Further thoughts on -16 (as my previous comments included below are). What is the status of Appendix B? I find this a thorny question. Appendices are usually regarded as not Normative, with a statement called for when it is otherwise. This is a YANG module which non-NMDA servers will implement so that says it is Normative, to me. On the other hand, the world is going NMDA - I do not know how fast - so this is more like Historic; or non-Normative? I do not know the answer but do know we can expect to see this several times, so I am thinking that some thought and guidance from an Ops AD would be valuable. IANA Considerations should have a reference: RFC XXXX for each module registered Additionally, my comments about the YANG module in the body of the document apply to Appendix B and C namely - [RFC ... looks wrong in a YANG module - import without reference Does the YANG module in Appendix C need a Copyright statement? Should the YANG module in Appendix C be registered? It took a while for the IETF to see the need to define formally such things as example.com so I am thinking it probably should be lest we get many different varieties in the wild. And I would like a Note to the RFC Editor asking them to update the dates with the date of publication especially since there are five such dates rather than the usual two. Tom Petch ----- Original Message ----- From: "tom p." <daedulus@xxxxxxxxxxxxx> To: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Cc: <teas-chairs@xxxxxxxx>; <teas@xxxxxxxx>; <draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo@xxxxxxxx>; <db3546@xxxxxxx> Sent: Tuesday, June 05, 2018 6:01 PM > Lou et al > > I note that the YANG module in this I-D has Reference statements to 20 > other RFC, which is good, but only one of the twenty appear in the > References for the I-D, which I think is not good, and needs to be > fixed. > > Also, some of the RFC which appear in Reference clauses of the YANG > module appear in [square brackets] e.g. [RFC6001] which I think should > not be there. > > In the same vein, there are imports of four other YANG modules but no > indication as to which RFC they can be found in - again, I think that > that needs fixing with a Reference statement. > > A quick pass suggests the missing references are to > 1195 missing > 3209 missing > 3272 missing > 3471 missing > 3630 missing > 3785 missing > 4201 4202 4203 4206 all missing > 4872 missing > 5152 missing > 5212 missing > 5305 missing > 6001 missing > 6241 ok Norm > 7471 missing > 7752 missing > 7579 missing > > Russ's comment about Section 1.1 does not seem to have been addressed. > > Tom Petch > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "The IESG" <iesg-secretary@xxxxxxxx> > To: "IETF-Announce" <ietf-announce@xxxxxxxx> > Cc: <draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo@xxxxxxxx>; <teas-chairs@xxxxxxxx>; > <teas@xxxxxxxx>; <db3546@xxxxxxx> > Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2018 3:40 PM > > > The IESG has received a request from the Traffic Engineering > Architecture and > > Signaling WG (teas) to consider the following document: - 'YANG Data > Model > > for Traffic Engineering (TE) Topologies' > > <draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo-15.txt> as Proposed Standard > > > > The IESG plans to make a decision in the next few weeks, and solicits > final > > comments on this action. Please send substantive comments to the > > ietf@xxxxxxxx mailing lists by 2018-05-30. Exceptionally, comments may > be > > sent to iesg@xxxxxxxx instead. In either case, please retain the > beginning of > > the Subject line to allow automated sorting. > > > > Abstract > > > > > > This document defines a YANG data model for representing, > retrieving > > and manipulating Traffic Engineering (TE) Topologies. The model > > serves as a base model that other technology specific TE Topology > > models can augment. > > > > > > > > > > > > The file can be obtained via > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo/ > > > > IESG discussion can be tracked via > > https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-ietf-teas-yang-te-topo/ballot/ > > > > > > No IPR declarations have been submitted directly on this I-D. > > > > > > The document contains these normative downward references. > > See RFC 3967 for additional information: > > rfc5212: Requirements for GMPLS-Based Multi-Region and Multi-Layer > Networks (MRN/MLN) (Informational - IETF stream)