Don, Thanks. Had forgotten that one. The fact that there are successful precedents is definitely good news. john --On Thursday, May 31, 2018 14:04 -0400 Donald Eastlake <d3e3e3@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 9:51 AM, John C Klensin > <john-ietf@xxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> ... >> >> I could see a "joint development" collaboration between the >> IETF and some other SDO(s) working together and >> cross-checking each other's work --not merely cross-area, but >> cross-SDO-- but that IETF has never been able to pull one of >> those off before and, AFAIK, has never expressed much >> interest in doing so. Even if > > I disagree. I was co-chair of the joint IETF/W3C XMLDSIG WG > which I believe was reasonably successful.