-----Original Message----- From: Mtgvenue <mtgvenue-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of Adam Roach <adam@xxxxxxxxxxx> Date: Saturday, April 21, 2018 at 9:25 PM To: Stephen Farrell <stephen.farrell@xxxxxxxxx>, "mtgvenue@xxxxxxxx" <mtgvenue@xxxxxxxx> Cc: "ietf@xxxxxxxx" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> Subject: Re: [Mtgvenue] Last Call: <draft-ietf-mtgvenue-meeting-policy-04.txt> (High level guidance for the meeting policy of the IETF) to Best Current Practice On 4/21/18 1:39 PM, Stephen Farrell wrote: >I don't see evidence sufficient to warrant a change to >something else right now. In saying that I regard the >1-1-1 scheme as being somewhat aspirational in practice, >and that's ok. Agreed, and I think the crux of the conversation underway is whether these guidelines are aspirational or mandatory. The introduction of meeting-policy makes it pretty clear that the document is an attempt to write down the currently-in-use informal policy rather than change it, and I believe that any citation of meeting-policy from venue-selection needs to make the aspirational nature of the 1-1-1-* policy clear (rather than, for example, using normative language, especially at a MUST level). /a [cue] I agree with Adam on all points here. Cheers, Charles