So, now we have two options for an IETF meeting in Africa, Egypt and Mauritius.
Regards,
Khaled
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Thanks Alissa, I will check this out again.
Best Regards,
Khaled
From: Alissa Cooper [mailto:alissa@xxxxxxxxxx]
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Subject: Re: meeting in other places
Khaled,
On Mar 22, 2018, at 12:17 PM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
I think there is no big difference between following the company?s travel policy and travelling as an individual, the most important is to choose the right city and there are many options for choosing the meeting venue.
P.S. There is no discussion on the suggested mailing list, it is still going through the IETF mailing list.
There has been extensive discussion of the criteria to use for selecting meeting venues on the mtgvenue mailing list. Please see
https://mailarchive.ietf.org/arch/search/?email_list=mtgvenue. In draft-ietf-mtgvenue-iaoc-venue-selection-process there is specific criteria about economic, health, and safety risks. If you have comments about it please direct those to the mtgvenue list.
The draft will be in IETF last call again soon.
Thanks,
Alissa
Khaled
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To: Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>>
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Subject: Re: meeting in other places
That is fine, but if your company?s travel policy obeys the lists, you are not traveling there.
?Tom
On Mar 22, 2018, at 4:25 AM, Khaled Omar <eng.khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:eng..khaled.omar@xxxxxxxxxxx>> wrote:
This warning does not reflects the actual status of the country, we have a stable situation now here after having a president and government for a long time, and what happens sometimes in sinai happens in many other countries, but in Cairo it is totally different.
Khaled
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From: Anton Ivanov <anton.ivanov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx<mailto:anton.ivanov@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>>
Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2018 10:58:13 AM
To: Khaled Omar; ietf@xxxxxxxx<mailto:ietf@xxxxxxxx>
Subject: Re: meeting in other places
The company travel policies are usually set to reflect what the local foreign office equivalent says.
Example for UK:
https://www.gov.uk/foreign-travel-advice/egypt
Based on the run-down in that page the reaction of a UK company would be that a conference there is a no-go territory and it may not be covered by the company travel insurance.
Other companies/countries operate in a similar manner.
A
On 03/22/18 08:46, Khaled Omar wrote:
> When Egypt is off the travel warning list in most of the world - maybe..
There is no reason to be on the warning list, now everything is stable, but does this means that people cannot travel to Egypt or it is just a warning?
Khaled
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On 21/03/18 21:16, Khaled Omar wrote: >> A few years ago, I suggested in the open mike, in several consecutive meetings, that we should go to Africa and Latin America. > I suggested too before to held one of the IETF meetings in Cairo, Egypt and I'm not talking
about tourism, there are many different hotels here that can handle the large number of participants in addition to the sessions' halls. Sure. When Egypt is off the travel warning list in most of the world - maybe. Before that - no. A. > > Egypt is in the
middle of the world, it will allow fair distances for everyone, also the weather here is warm almost all year max 38 C and min 15 C without rain or snow. > >> but the region rotation need to start changing and allowing that. > I agree with that. > >> the registration
fee should be reduced or made almost free. > This is something that should be taken into consideration, if that is not possible, there should be some sponsorships for a small number of participants to enable them
to attend the meeting in person. > > Best Regards, > > Khaled > > -----Original Message----- > From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of JORDI PALET MARTINEZ > Sent: Wednesday, March
21, 2018 10:29 PM > To: IETF discussion list > Subject: meeting in other places > > A few years ago, I suggested in the open mike, in ?several consecutive meetings, that we should go to Africa and Latin America. > > I was almost killed because that. > > Then,
we went to Buenos Aires and nobody had any issue compared with the regular issues that happen in other locations (cookies, pick-pockets, and so .... choose your preferred one).. > > I didn't get yet a meeting in Africa. Is time for it! > > Of course, if venues
can accommodate us. I know very well how difficult is to find a venue for our group. I'm not trying to break those rules, but the region rotation need to start changing and allowing that. > > Considering the actual conversation in the plenary, I think is time
to seriously conside
r *urgently* to return to Latin America and look for locations in Africa, more locations in Asia Pacific, and so on. > > Also, I think it is clear that if we really want to share expenses, thinks said today need to be considered: > 1) Ideally, the registration
fee should be reduced or made almost free. We need to find better funding, or even study with ISOC if there are able to increase our funding towards that. > 2) Remote participants should share part of the cost. > 3) Local participants don't have (same) traveling
expenses, so they should also cover some extra cost.. > > Regards, > Jordi > > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? >
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