On Thu, Apr 5, 2018 at 1:38 PM, Jeff Tantsura <jefftant.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > I’d second Berlin We can all find things to love and hate for each location (and I'm predicting a "Take this to the venue discuss list" soon), but my biggest issue with Berlin was the unpredictability of Tegel Airport -- does anyone know what the status of the new airport(s) currently is? > > > > Cheers, > > Jeff > > From: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> on behalf of Christer Holmberg > <christer.holmberg@xxxxxxxxxxxx> > Date: Thursday, April 5, 2018 at 10:20 > To: "Andrew G. Malis" <agmalis@xxxxxxxxx>, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: IETF Discussion <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: RE: meeting in other places (some flattery for london) > > > > I like both Prague and London, but Berlin is still my #1 European location > :) > > > > Regards, > > > > Christer > > > > From: ietf [mailto:ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Andrew G. Malis > Sent: 05 April 2018 19:06 > To: Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> > Cc: IETF Discussion <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Subject: Re: meeting in other places (some flattery for london) > > > > I also agree, I support returning to the Metropole as our second primary > European location (Prague being the first). > > > > Cheers, > > Andy > > > > > > On Thu, Mar 29, 2018 at 6:18 PM, Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > Agree. Both the venue and location are among the best of any IETF venue > I’ve attended. Quite possibly the best in Europe in recent years. > > >> On 30 Mar 2018, at 0:20, Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: >> >> +1 on on what Stewart said. I would also venture to say that >> i found the London location extremely well fitting the >> requirements: >> >> My flight from California (United) was only $700. Of which seemingly >> almost $500 where airport/immigration etc. taxes/fees. I don't >> remember from last time, but maybe London has amongst the highest >> rate of airline competition, making it cheaper reachable than other >> cities ? If thats not just a one-off data point, that >> certainly brings up London in my ranking. >> >> My Hotel was just across the street for under 90 GBP, and i think >> there was a good selection of hotels in the vicinity. >> >> Travel to/from the airport is very easy/fast with heathrow express, >> and there are even cheaper public transport options. >> >> The hotel setup for the meeting rooms and especially public areas (cafe, >> bar) was very supportive of collaboration and hallway talks. >> >> The neighborhood of Paddington was interrestingly renewed/upgraded, >> with a lot of restaurant choices in walking distance (e.g.: along >> the canal). >> >> Edgware road was full of small convenience stores open late for >> utilities like bottled water etc. >> >> Se rest of the experience like the hotel being a maze where but quaint >> quirks of the event to me. >> >> Overall, my preoccupation was always London being very expensive, >> which is certainly true overall, but for he choosen location it >> seems to well controllable. Plus the potential of good >> airfares ?!. >> >> Cheers >> Toerless >> >> On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:00:31PM +0000, Stewart Bryant wrote: >>> >>> >>> On 21/03/2018 21:36, Thomas Nadeau wrote: >>>> This has come up before, and I agree %100 with Anton???s points. In >>>> a world where companies are reducing travel budgets by the quarter, having >>>> meetings in expensive and hard to get to places should be the last option. >>>> We really need to focus choices pragmatically - on having meetings in places >>>> where its feasible for a significant amount of people to get to and have a >>>> meeting - not in places where its fun to do tourism things. I am sorry, >>>> but those days are over. >>>> >>>> ???Tom >>>> >>> >>> I want somewhere simple, practical, economic and safe, where the >>> only people who come are those that want to work and the only thing >>> we do is work on the design of the Internet. >>> >>> - Stewart >> > > -- I don't think the execution is relevant when it was obviously a bad idea in the first place. This is like putting rabid weasels in your pants, and later expressing regret at having chosen those particular rabid weasels and that pair of pants. ---maf
