The UK is not part of Schengen. If the UK government would fancy to embrace the current religious xenophobia of the government of its former colonies, it could perfectly do so today without Brexit. On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 10:50:03AM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > And we must not forget that soon UK will not be EU, so we may have VISA issues and similar issues as with US. > > Regards, > Jordi > > ???-----Mensaje original----- > De: JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet@xxxxxxxxxxxxxx> > Fecha: viernes, 30 de marzo de 2018, 10:04 > Para: "ietf@xxxxxxxx" <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Asunto: Re: meeting in other places (some flattery for london) > > While I agree that the location is good and the flights may be cheaper (especially if flying from Europe), the hotel is expensive and I will say the worst among all the Hilton hotels. The conference rooms are not either the best ones. > > We also need to consider the long waiting time to use the elevators and the bad quality of the rooms and they keep one of the elevators closed during all the week, knowing that problem. > > I rather prefer Berlin or Prague. > > Regards, > Jordi > > ???-----Mensaje original----- > De: ietf <ietf-bounces@xxxxxxxx> en nombre de Yoav Nir <ynir.ietf@xxxxxxxxxx> > Fecha: viernes, 30 de marzo de 2018, 0:19 > Para: Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> > CC: <ietf@xxxxxxxx> > Asunto: Re: meeting in other places (some flattery for london) > > Agree. Both the venue and location are among the best of any IETF venue I???ve attended. Quite possibly the best in Europe in recent years. > > > On 30 Mar 2018, at 0:20, Toerless Eckert <tte@xxxxxxxxx> wrote: > > > > +1 on on what Stewart said. I would also venture to say that > > i found the London location extremely well fitting the > > requirements: > > > > My flight from California (United) was only $700. Of which seemingly > > almost $500 where airport/immigration etc. taxes/fees. I don't > > remember from last time, but maybe London has amongst the highest > > rate of airline competition, making it cheaper reachable than other > > cities ? If thats not just a one-off data point, that > > certainly brings up London in my ranking. > > > > My Hotel was just across the street for under 90 GBP, and i think > > there was a good selection of hotels in the vicinity. > > > > Travel to/from the airport is very easy/fast with heathrow express, > > and there are even cheaper public transport options. > > > > The hotel setup for the meeting rooms and especially public areas (cafe, > > bar) was very supportive of collaboration and hallway talks. > > > > The neighborhood of Paddington was interrestingly renewed/upgraded, > > with a lot of restaurant choices in walking distance (e.g.: along > > the canal). > > > > Edgware road was full of small convenience stores open late for > > utilities like bottled water etc. > > > > Se rest of the experience like the hotel being a maze where but quaint > > quirks of the event to me. > > > > Overall, my preoccupation was always London being very expensive, > > which is certainly true overall, but for he choosen location it > > seems to well controllable. Plus the potential of good > > airfares ?!. > > > > Cheers > > Toerless > > > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:00:31PM +0000, Stewart Bryant wrote: > >> > >> > >> On 21/03/2018 21:36, Thomas Nadeau wrote: > >>> This has come up before, and I agree %100 with Anton???s points. In a world where companies are reducing travel budgets by the quarter, having meetings in expensive and hard to get to places should be the last option. We really need to focus choices pragmatically - on having meetings in places where its feasible for a significant amount of people to get to and have a meeting - not in places where its fun to do tourism things. I am sorry, but those days are over. > >>> > >>> ???Tom > >>> > >> > >> I want somewhere simple, practical, economic and safe, where the > >> only people who come are those that want to work and the only thing > >> we do is work on the design of the Internet. > >> > >> - Stewart > > > > > > > > > ********************************************** > IPv4 is over > Are you ready for the new Internet ? > http://www.consulintel.es > The IPv6 Company > > This electronic message contains information which may be privileged or confidential. The information is intended to be for the exclusive use of the individual(s) named above and further non-explicilty authorized disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited and will be considered a criminal offense. If you are not the intended recipient be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution or use of the contents of this information, even if partially, including attached files, is strictly prohibited, will be considered a criminal offense, so you must reply to the original sender to inform about this communication and delete it. > > -- --- tte@xxxxxxxxx
