Toerless, I am glad you found the location workable, in spite of the meeting room maze, expensive rooms in the main hotel and even minor hassles caused by "snow" during the initial weekend. The Metropole is apparently London's larges conference hotel with that many meeting rooms under (sort of) one roof. Alternative venues would typically take us to the convention centers which are rarely in the city center (I am not speaking about London specifically here), and typically have far fewer options in terms of restaurants, shops, and other hotels (try for example Amsterdam). So I agree that the Metropole is a good tradeoff. To Jared's point: I think we should create a new sponsorship opportunity: A power strip with N(1) universal outlets connected to a cable "tail" with a local plug. I actually own such a thing where the "tail" is itself a power cable that can be detached from the strip and replaced according to local environments, that is to say a C13 at one end and a "local plug" at the other. [YOUR LOGO HERE] Ole (1) N = A number determined by consensus of the Power over Power (POP) working group. Ole J. Jacobsen Editor and Publisher The Internet Protocol Journal Office: +1 415-550-9433 Cell: +1 415-370-4628 UK EE: +44 7805 977889 Docomo: +81 090 3337-9311 E-mail: olejacobsen@xxxxxx Skype: organdemo On Thu, 29 Mar 2018, Toerless Eckert wrote: > +1 on on what Stewart said. I would also venture to say that > i found the London location extremely well fitting the > requirements: > > My flight from California (United) was only $700. Of which seemingly > almost $500 where airport/immigration etc. taxes/fees. I don't > remember from last time, but maybe London has amongst the highest > rate of airline competition, making it cheaper reachable than other > cities ? If thats not just a one-off data point, that > certainly brings up London in my ranking. > > My Hotel was just across the street for under 90 GBP, and i think > there was a good selection of hotels in the vicinity. > > Travel to/from the airport is very easy/fast with heathrow express, > and there are even cheaper public transport options. > > The hotel setup for the meeting rooms and especially public areas (cafe, > bar) was very supportive of collaboration and hallway talks. > > The neighborhood of Paddington was interrestingly renewed/upgraded, > with a lot of restaurant choices in walking distance (e.g.: along > the canal). > > Edgware road was full of small convenience stores open late for > utilities like bottled water etc. > > Se rest of the experience like the hotel being a maze where but quaint > quirks of the event to me. > > Overall, my preoccupation was always London being very expensive, > which is certainly true overall, but for he choosen location it > seems to well controllable. Plus the potential of good > airfares ?!. > > Cheers > Toerless > > On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 10:00:31PM +0000, Stewart Bryant wrote: > > > > > > On 21/03/2018 21:36, Thomas Nadeau wrote: > > > This has come up before, and I agree %100 with Anton???s points. In a world where companies are reducing travel budgets by the quarter, having meetings in expensive and hard to get to places should be the last option. We really need to focus choices pragmatically - on having meetings in places where its feasible for a significant amount of people to get to and have a meeting - not in places where its fun to do tourism things. I am sorry, but those days are over. > > > > > > ???Tom > > > > > > > I want somewhere simple, practical, economic and safe, where the > > only people who come are those that want to work and the only thing > > we do is work on the design of the Internet. > > > > - Stewart > >