On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 10:20:33AM -0600, Benjamin Kaduk <kaduk@xxxxxxx> wrote a message of 41 lines which said: > try to keep to a civil discussion about the work and the process, > and not the people involved with the work or the process. "The fact that ticket [www.ietf.org/rt #201081] (Old IETF links are broken) was closed without fixing the problem is annoying and seems to indicate a weakness in the process." Is it civil enough? (My first version was more honest.)