Re: [yang-doctors] Yangdoctors last call review of draft-ietf-ospf-yang-09

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On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 16:08 +0100, Ladislav Lhotka wrote:
> On Tue, 2018-01-09 at 09:06 +0100, Martin Bjorklund wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > Ladislav Lhotka <lhotka@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > > Hi Acee,
> > > 
> > > please see inline.
> > > 
> > > On Mon, 2018-01-08 at 19:28 +0000, Acee Lindem (acee) wrote:
> > > > Hi Lada,
> > > > 
> > > > Apologies for the delay. We somewhat got hung up on 4 and 6. See inline.
> > > > 
> > > > On 12/6/17, 6:26 AM, "Ladislav Lhotka" <lhotka@xxxxxx> wrote:
> > > > 
> > > > > Reviewer: Ladislav Lhotka
> > > > > Review result: Ready with Issues
> > > 
> > > ...
> > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 3. Maybe the draft could mention that implementations should supply a
> > > > >   default routing domain as a system-controlled resource.
> > > > 
> > > > Isn’t this more of an RFC8022BIS statement? I guess we could state this
> > > > as
> > > > an assumption.
> > > 
> > > Probably, but it is not a YANG issue, so I'd leave it to you routing folks
> > 
> > to
> > 
> > > decide.
> > > 
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > > 4. In "when" expressions, the module uses literal strings for
> > > > >   identities. This is known to be problematic, the XPath functions
> > > > >   derived-from() or derived-from-or-self() should be used instead.
> > > > 
> > > > Why is this problematic? Is it because the types can be extended?
> > > 
> > > That's one reason: derived identities should often also satisfy the
> > 
> > constraint.
> > 
> > > 
> > > But the more serious problem is that things like
> > > 
> > >     when "../../../../../../../rt:type = 'ospf:ospfv3'"
> > > 
> > > rely on plain string comparison that depends od the actual prefix used for
> > 
> > the
> > 
> > > "rt:type" value. For one, according to RFC 7951 the JSON encoding of this
> > 
> > value
> > 
> > > would be "ietf-ospf:ospfv3" so the above expression is always false. 
> > 
> > 
> > This is not correct; the when expression is not evaluated on the JSON
> > encoding.  See the last paragraph of section 9.10.3 in RFC 7950:
> > 
> >    The string value of a node of type "identityref" in a "must" or
> >    "when" XPath expression is the referred identity's qualified name
> >    with the prefix present.  If the referred identity is defined in an
> >    imported module, the prefix in the string value is the prefix defined
> >    in the corresponding "import" statement.  Otherwise, the prefix in
> >    the string value is the prefix for the current module.
> 
> This is weird, to say the least. The leafref instance may have an identity 

Sorry, I meant "identityref" here --------^

Lada

> value
> that is defined in a module that (has to be implemented by the server but)
> needn't be imported in the module that contains the XPath expression. So I
> don't
> know what 'corresponding "import" statement' this paragraph is talking about.
> 
> Also, potentially there can be a collision in prefixes and then this also
> breaks
> down.
> 
> A moral of the namespace/prefix story in XML was that relying of namespace
> prefixes having a particular value is a really bad idea. I know that the cited
> paragraph was intended to make such XPath string comparisons more
> deterministic,
> but it is also problematic and should be avoided if possible. 
> 
> Lada
> 
> > 
> > So the equality test of the identityref is correct.
> > 
> > However, I agree that in most cases 'derived-from-or-self' should be
> > used, in order to handle derived identities.
> > 
> > 
> > /martin
-- 
Ladislav Lhotka
Head, CZ.NIC Labs
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