There can only ever be rough consensus on what 'rough consensus' means. Lloyd Wood lloyd.wood@xxxxxxxxxxx http://about.me/lloydwood ________________________________ From: Ted Lemon <mellon@xxxxxxxxx> To: S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> Cc: Pete Resnick <presnick@xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx>; ietf@xxxxxxxx Sent: Friday, 5 January 2018, 7:22 Subject: Re: Not a simple question On Jan 4, 2018, at 3:19 PM, S Moonesamy <sm+ietf@xxxxxxxxxxxx> wrote: It is within the IETF context. > In the IETF context, there's only ever rough consensus, so the distinction doesn't matter. Consensus means complete agreement of all participants. I doubt that's ever happened in the IETF. There can be debate on what "rough consensus" is, but I think that Pete's document does a good job of capturing it.